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Washington's Latest Special Favor (Of the nation's 143 refineries, one was exempted)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | AUG 8,2013 | KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

Posted on 08/10/2013 2:00:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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1 posted on 08/10/2013 2:00:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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Is this why the price of gas is so high ?????


2 posted on 08/10/2013 2:01:43 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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Before these guys are done, people will look back to the Credit Mobilier and Teapot Dome as the caperings of innocent children.

These people truly, truly are scum. Septic-tank scum.

3 posted on 08/10/2013 2:05:52 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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I think it’s more that this is why the price of gas isn’t coming down.


4 posted on 08/10/2013 2:06:18 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Hojczyk

Does Warren Buffet have any interest in refineries? If he has put his money on a particular refinery, that refinery will be granted exempt status.


5 posted on 08/10/2013 2:06:32 PM PDT by Ken522
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Just another big payoff for friends of Obama.

The whole ethanol scam is nothing but theft.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 2:20:42 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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a) this is just more 0bama. I can’t wait until that loser is gone.

b) how can refineries be afraid of lawsuits when it’s the EPA forcing them to add ethanol?

something doesn’t smell right


7 posted on 08/10/2013 2:25:21 PM PDT by Principled
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Another federal scam to pick the pockets of citizens through the back door.

Sad to say, the ethanol scam is on George Bush and the republicans who once again did the dirty work for democrats.


8 posted on 08/10/2013 2:29:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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Ethanol voids some warranties on ATV also. My manual says not to use it. It destroys diaphragms in the carburetors and softens gas lines. We have plenty of crude to use for fuel so these fools use food to replace fuel? What idiots they and we are!


9 posted on 08/10/2013 2:34:11 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The Federal Government at work:

1. Ethanol has LESS energy by volume than gasoline does.

2. The EPA is mandating that this less economical form of fuel be used.

3. If I got this article right, the EPA is requiring by regulation that X amount of ethanol be used, regardless of the amount of gasoline manufactured. On the other hand, automotive makers only warranty vehicle engines up to 10% ethanol because of the problems associated with using alcohol as a fuel.

So, with the economic slowdown, less gas is being used. But the EPA is requiring a set number of gallons to use. But the refiners can’t use it because it voids car warranties.

The government’s solution is to “let” the refiners buy credits for the ethanol that is not used. And the refiners pass that on to us.

No wonder gas is $3.50 per gallon.

This CRAP has got to stop.


10 posted on 08/10/2013 2:50:56 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Washington’s Latest Special Favor (Of the nation’s 143 refineries, one was exempted), Hojczyk wrote:
Is this why the price of gas is so high ?????

Gee! I believe you answered your own question.
But this sort of stuff was going on during the 2012 elections and the architects, and other geniuses known as GOPES (gop elite snob-s)and RINOS were still looking for their “demographics” didn’t bring this up.

Now that they found their “demographics” this is not among them because “amnesty” is their solution. That’ill bring down the price of the cost on everything and just raise the minimum wage.


11 posted on 08/10/2013 2:52:59 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Ken522
Does Warren Buffet have any interest in refineries?

Try symbol PSX in your favorite finance web site.
12 posted on 08/10/2013 3:19:37 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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Is this why the price of gas is so high ?????

Probably not, but it is why you get 3 to 4 mpg less than you would with non-ethanol gas and why beef prices have doubled.

13 posted on 08/10/2013 3:26:49 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Keynesians take the stand that the best way to sober up is more booze.)
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The MSM doesn’t give a crap, so this isn’t news, and never will be.


14 posted on 08/10/2013 3:41:10 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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But I thought it was found that ethanol gums up engines? And the government insists we ruin our vehicles? Help! Is there no agency to help us?

Why are we putting ethanol in our vehicles? What is the purpose?


15 posted on 08/10/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by abclily
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To: mountainlion

I have an ethanol free station in Pocatello. That’s the only place I fill up my motorcycles. Slightly more expensive per gallon, but my Fat Bob is getting 50 to 54 MPG vs 38 MPG on the ethanol tainted stuff. My fuel cost per mile is lower.


16 posted on 08/10/2013 4:23:42 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Venturer
our govt is a cabal of crooks....

everything in American life, western societies, is based on the honesty of the individual citizen..

..the only reason a country can run fairly smoothly is that MOST of us obey the laws, pay taxes, etc.....

a country can get by when a tiny minority doesn't pay taxes, or commits crime, as long as the majority do...

but when the very govt is committing crime?....there's nothing to do about it....

17 posted on 08/10/2013 4:39:55 PM PDT by cherry
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Ethanol is a joke and is just a government subsidy for corn farmers and ethanol producers. It is ironic that in South Dakota where ethanol is next to Mom’s apple pie and religion the State motor pool gave up using an 85% ethanol gasoline blend in its fleet of flex fuel vehicles. The reason was that the cost per mile was too high despite E85 being heavily subsidized to an average of nearly 25 cents per gallon less than regular gasoline.


18 posted on 08/10/2013 5:46:20 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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The Federal Government at work:

4..Ethanol burns with a high temperature almost invisible flame and requires special fire extinguishers (that most Fire Depts don't have)

19 posted on 08/10/2013 6:08:38 PM PDT by spokeshave
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The ethanol scam is a fully bipartisan project. It is wrong to blame it on Democrats alone. It would, however, be very interesting to learn which refinery gets the exemption. It is undoubtedly a small, obscure refinery that has poor economic performance. It is likely an old, unionized, and hopelessly uneconomic facility owned by a small company.

Conservatives really need to avoid ODS. There are plenty of serious scandals for which Obama has been responsible. This probably isn’t one of them.


20 posted on 08/10/2013 6:44:44 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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