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1 posted on 08/10/2013 2:00:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Is this why the price of gas is so high ?????


2 posted on 08/10/2013 2:01:43 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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Before these guys are done, people will look back to the Credit Mobilier and Teapot Dome as the caperings of innocent children.

These people truly, truly are scum. Septic-tank scum.

3 posted on 08/10/2013 2:05:52 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Hojczyk

Does Warren Buffet have any interest in refineries? If he has put his money on a particular refinery, that refinery will be granted exempt status.


5 posted on 08/10/2013 2:06:32 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Hojczyk

Just another big payoff for friends of Obama.

The whole ethanol scam is nothing but theft.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 2:20:42 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Hojczyk

a) this is just more 0bama. I can’t wait until that loser is gone.

b) how can refineries be afraid of lawsuits when it’s the EPA forcing them to add ethanol?

something doesn’t smell right


7 posted on 08/10/2013 2:25:21 PM PDT by Principled
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Another federal scam to pick the pockets of citizens through the back door.

Sad to say, the ethanol scam is on George Bush and the republicans who once again did the dirty work for democrats.


8 posted on 08/10/2013 2:29:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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Ethanol voids some warranties on ATV also. My manual says not to use it. It destroys diaphragms in the carburetors and softens gas lines. We have plenty of crude to use for fuel so these fools use food to replace fuel? What idiots they and we are!


9 posted on 08/10/2013 2:34:11 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The Federal Government at work:

1. Ethanol has LESS energy by volume than gasoline does.

2. The EPA is mandating that this less economical form of fuel be used.

3. If I got this article right, the EPA is requiring by regulation that X amount of ethanol be used, regardless of the amount of gasoline manufactured. On the other hand, automotive makers only warranty vehicle engines up to 10% ethanol because of the problems associated with using alcohol as a fuel.

So, with the economic slowdown, less gas is being used. But the EPA is requiring a set number of gallons to use. But the refiners can’t use it because it voids car warranties.

The government’s solution is to “let” the refiners buy credits for the ethanol that is not used. And the refiners pass that on to us.

No wonder gas is $3.50 per gallon.

This CRAP has got to stop.


10 posted on 08/10/2013 2:50:56 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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The MSM doesn’t give a crap, so this isn’t news, and never will be.


14 posted on 08/10/2013 3:41:10 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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But I thought it was found that ethanol gums up engines? And the government insists we ruin our vehicles? Help! Is there no agency to help us?

Why are we putting ethanol in our vehicles? What is the purpose?


15 posted on 08/10/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by abclily
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Ethanol is a joke and is just a government subsidy for corn farmers and ethanol producers. It is ironic that in South Dakota where ethanol is next to Mom’s apple pie and religion the State motor pool gave up using an 85% ethanol gasoline blend in its fleet of flex fuel vehicles. The reason was that the cost per mile was too high despite E85 being heavily subsidized to an average of nearly 25 cents per gallon less than regular gasoline.


18 posted on 08/10/2013 5:46:20 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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Ping.


22 posted on 08/10/2013 8:34:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


23 posted on 08/10/2013 8:35:34 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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The EPA won't say. The agency not only refused to name the refinery in its rule, but also obscured certain numbers in the document to hide the beneficiary's identity.

Looks like another game of *Find the RAT*.

25 posted on 08/10/2013 10:58:48 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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Any bets?

Barton Refining at Austin with 24 bopd?


26 posted on 08/11/2013 7:28:28 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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Ethanol is costing every driver $1 per gallon, as well as keeping food from the mouths of starving people and animals worldwide.

It’s time to march on Washington with pitchforks and whatever. At least we need to demand hearings. And jail.


27 posted on 08/11/2013 8:14:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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