Posted on 07/30/2013 2:32:12 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
Paul needled him last night on Hannity’s show for taking a “gimme, gimme, gimme” attitude towards federal spending on Sandy relief. Here’s Christie needling him back by accusing Paul and his home state of Kentucky of being a couple of deadbeats:
“I find it interesting that Sen. Paul is accusing us of having a ‘gimme, gimme, gimme’ attitude towards federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state and we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington,” Christie said. “And interestingly, Kentucky gets $1.51 on every dollar they send to Washington. So if Sen. Paul wants to start looking at where he’s going to cut spending to afford defense, maybe he should start cutting the pork barrel spending that he brings home to Kentucky…”
David Frum made a similar point this morning before Christie spoke. If you look at this Economist chart of federal spending and revenue per state from 1990 to 2009, New Jersey was the third biggest net exporter of tax dollars while Kentucky was the 13th biggest net importer. Christie, who accepted a temporary (but not permanent) expansion of Medicaid under ObamaCare, ain’t the guy to be attacking Paul on spending, but that’s the point here: He’s trying to inoculate himself from the damaging big-spender charge in the 2016 primaries by arguing that even libertarians like their tax money. The kicker is his dismissal of Paul as a “Washington politician,” which is … not the way most people think of Rand. But that’s strategic too. The rap on Christie two years from now will be that he’s the champion of the Republican establishment (which is true). This is him trying to muddy those perceptions by arguing that even the famously anti-establishment tea-party senator is really just a big ol’ Beltway parasite at heart.
Anyway, the takeaway is that both of these men must run for president. We want these debates. We need these debates. In fact, one X factor with Christie is whether his willingness to throw punches at grassroots heroes will end up helping him or hurting him with the centrists he’s targeting in the primaries. I agree with Dan McLaughlin that the real winners in this brawl are Rubio, Cruz, and Walker because space is being cleared in the center-right between Christie and Paul for one (or more) of them, but who knows? (Here’s a smart counter-take.) An “angry RINO” charging at rivals on the right would be a novel thing for a GOP primary; normally the RINO is a hapless figure like Romney who tolerates being dumped on by grassroots righties because he knows he needs conservatives in the general election and doesn’t want to alienate them by firing back. Christie might figure that he’ll do well enough with centrist Democrats as nominee that he can afford to lose a few stalwart conservatives. I think he’s wrong about that, if so, but either way, these primaries will be dynamite.
1. Military facilities (small, densely populated states like New Jersey tend to have few of these compared to larger and more rural sates).
2. Indian reservations (I believe this factor alone puts New Mexico at or near the top of the list of "recipient" states).
3. Retiree populations (if Social Security and Medicare entitlements are included in the Federal spending calculations at the state level).
Kentucky is also home to Ft. Campbell, Ft. Knox and Kentucky Lake and several other Federal run agencies/projects.
It also doesn’t help when your major local industry is being oppressed by the President and his anti coal policies
Other states, when you all agree to get your hands out of my pockets every year I'll agree that NJ shouldn't get hurricane relief this one time.
Agreed! Now how do we implement this?
Krispy Kreme is imploding on his own.
not the only person who will be attacking Rand for virtually anything he says.
New Jersey residents get soaked in taxes. Have a lot of them in my circle and I know.
I think there’s a soreness about Christie Schmoozing and Smooching BO at a really bad time. So I guess there’s collateral. I don’t know.
War between the States?
Haha. Quite the conservative you are. The government isn’t a charity case. Stop defending its excesses.
...from 1990 to 2009, New Jersey was the third biggest net exporter of tax dollars while Kentucky was the 13th biggest net importer... I agree with Dan McLaughlin that the real winners in this brawl are Rubio, Cruz, and Walker because space is being cleared in the center-right between Christie and Paul for one (or more) of them...
I would never vote for an Obama-hugging lard ass like Cristie. He’s the one that started this BS. This is after the porker had his hugest with Obama.
Christie couln’t survive a long political race. His speech at the republican convention sucked because he was so winded. He’s so out of shape the walk on stage wore him out. He was pathetic.
He’s going to drop dead like James Gandolfini if he doesn’t lose about 100 pounds.
I thought the fight was about how much pork was stuffed in the bill, not the money going to Jersey.
I care not one whit what a chump like David Frum has to say.
Let them make their arguments. We need a good housecleaning, air all the dirty laundry and let’s compare notes.
I think Crispy is jockeying for shotgun on Hildebest’s ticket. He’s off the GOP reservation.
I'm tired of getting taxed disproportionately to the benefit I get relative to citizens from every other state. You defending that?
When this country was begun, the Founding Fathers did not see this country as a superman that would go around righting all the wrongs in the whole world. We simply cannot do it. So much of our policy has involved being on a war footing since World War II. We have to be more circumspect about our world policies.
Not my fault you live in a state with a high tax rate. Your pork barrell mentality is the reason our debt is 17 trillion. With your rational, I should exploit a couple workarounds and use my status as a student to get on SNAP. If everyone else is bankrupting the country, I might as well do my part. Christie is the phoniest kind of conservative. He’s all about small government until a crisis, then it’s gimme me pork time.
To borrow a speech from Obamas pastor Father Pheleger:
Christie is only mad because he’s ignorant of what The South is like. He thought he could pick on Paul because “this will be easy going against this southern hick dumbass” and all of a sudden he gets smacked hard by someone that ISN’T dumb and ISN’T easy to take down. And Christie’s now saying “AHHHH DAMN! WHERE’D THAT INTELLIGENT SOUTHERNER COME FROM? IM A NORTHENER! IM EDUCATED! THERE’S A SOUTHERNER HICK STEALING MY SHOW! WAAAAAAAAA!”
Snort. Tell your fellow liberals in New Jersey to quit voting for people who raise their taxes.
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