Posted on 07/28/2013 1:24:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
Today on “This Week,” Glenn Greenwald – the reporter who broke the story about the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs – claimed that those NSA programs allowed even low-level analysts to search the private emails and phone calls of Americans.
“The NSA has trillions of telephone calls and emails in their databases that they’ve collected over the last several years,” Greenwald told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos. “And what these programs are, are very simple screens, like the ones that supermarket clerks or shipping and receiving clerks use, where all an analyst has to do is enter an email address or an IP address, and it does two things. It searches that database and lets them listen to the calls or read the emails of everything that the NSA has stored, or look at the browsing histories or Google search terms that you’ve entered, and it also alerts them to any further activity that people connected to that email address or that IP address do in the future.”
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The department of Defence was. Not sure since Obozo did the social engineering nonsense there.
At the Flag Officer level, it is doubtful now. The old soldiers who actually fought and won wars were never in question. Con artist like Weasley Clark are another matter.
I despise what the ComDems have done to the military. Still a work in progress.
My father-in-law worked in the weapons industry. I knew a lot of his support people, he was a division manager for about 15 years. The patriotism of those men was never in question. Never. They produced for the DOD with AEC supervision. That was scrambled into the Department of Energy, which was nonsense.
I would agree with past DOD. Who knows now. I really think patriotism like our fathers have has been actively discouraged in fedgov for at least a generation. Even longer in the school systems.
They’re mostly in it for themselves now.
Who knows about the grunts.
“Are they my enemy? Who knows?”
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Most assuredly some are. Fact. But the others will depend upon who runs them. Of course now they all answer to Obozo. That does not mean that everyone working for the administration supports the O B_tard.
So we come around in a circle. Why are you defending these sonsofbitches?
Defending?
I don’t see how my position is doing that. I simply questioned if it was possible for Snowden to be a tool used to detract from the capability of the Intelligence community and divide the opposition (GOP). The GOP is already divided enough. Too many RINOs.
I am convince that the vast majority of the many who work in the Intelligence community are not our enemy. Unfortunately the leadership is worse than an enemy. You can see an enemy. A subversive Traitor is another matter.
They are a tool. The Enemy will use then. In the end the Enemy looses.
Anything is possible with this crew.
But hasn’t the blanket order from the FISA court already been made public - after the judge’s clerk “misfiled” the record so that it wouldn’t show up on a search of PACER? The judge (can’t remember his name off-hand) overturned two other judges to allow the blanket permission - the same judge who dismissed one of Orly Taitz’s FOIA lawsuits because he said she didn’t properly redact the social security numbers from her filing. Orly said that the judge’s clerk tampered with her filing - a claim made more credible by the judge’s very public explanation of how his own ruling had been “disappeared” by his clerk.
Were we ever told which of the FISA judges gave permission for David Patraeus’ emails to be snooped in, and what led them to believe that it was an issue of national security or counter-terrorism? What level analyst looked at his emails, and what evidence of terrorism caused that level of interest/involvement?
Unfortunately, the spooks have lost a lot of credibility because of the way they covered up Obama’s ineligibility. And Fast & Furious showed us how the agencies worked together as yes-men to Obama’s sheer political agenda even when hundreds of innocent people had to be killed for his agenda.
I had emails that disappeared or weren’t delivered. My IT friend said that it just about had to be done at the federal or Homeland Security level. There is NOTHING about me that would raise suspicions to an innocent regime. The only thing that stands out about me in any way is my research into Obama’s ineligibility. Did some judge give them the OK to mess with my emails? How can I find out? Would your analyst friend have any advice on how I could know whether a judge gave permission to snoop on me? I kept telling the leader of the group I was working with on a “secure” site that I thought the site wasn’t secure because I so often saw public information being altered or disappearing right after we discussed it there. I’ve had my Word program go bonkers on me at critical times. The stuff that Snowden is talking about is the kind of stuff that I’ve seen for myself. I’m a nobody. There is no reason I would have attracted the attention of a high-level analyst. This leads me to believe that Snowden’s claims are credible.
I’ve also had the FBI lie to me - blatantly. And somebody who went to the trouble of using gates to hide where he/she was at, and set up tripwires to fry the computer of anybody who got close to finding out where he/she was at... tried to post a comment on my blog saying he/she had created Obama’s forged BC but it is pointless for me to pursue it because Obama has immunity from prosecution and so does he/she; the FBI knows they did it and will protect the perps. This person’s first post to me was that I was going to end up in jail. I have no way of knowing who this person is, but if this is somebody who IS being protected by the FBI, might the FBI be looking through my computer trying to find a reason to call me a “belligerent” who can be detained without due process? Given what we’re seeing about how this regime works, what would stop them from doing it - just that I’m small fry so they wouldn’t bother? But they’ve already “bothered” to mess with my computer...
“In the end the Enemy looses. “
Totally agree. We ultimately do not fight flesh and blood but battle with principalities and powers.
In the end, the father of lies, Looses.
So why are you defending these sobs?
The problem with having that much data available is you can NEVER EVER prove you did NOT look at it for whatever reason.
It’s like being given a sack of uncounted money to watch for someone.
Unless you were up to no good why would you want that moral responsibility to begin with?
I wouldn’t.
And the person who tried to post on my blog - the screen name that they used disappeared from the web while I was in the process of writing an affidavit for law enforcement, describing what had happened, in a Word document. I got the notification email pasted into the Word document, and by the time I returned to the document to keep working on it about a week later, that C&P showed that the poster’s moniker had been scrubbed from the internet. This was months after the initial comment. I hadn’t said anything publicly about this person’s comments, yet suddenly - shortly after I typed it into a Word document on my computer - that person gets spooked to the point that they deleted an online identity that they had had for years.
Snowden says they can see what you type as you type it. He says they can see our Word documents. What I’ve experienced leads me to believe his claims are credible.
“I had emails that disappeared or weren’t delivered.”
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So have I. One even bounced and I received a response from some admin not to resend the message, that it was being held for examination. I responded “examined for what and by whom?” There was never a response. Pretty sure this was an ATT sys op. The attachment was a screen capture of a Technorati search, that was in no way offensive. But it reflected badly on Obozo’s staff.
I have also been subtly warned here with the comment “stay safe”. Has happened several times. The last time that happened I replied “I am not sure that is always possible today”.
Our situation is more similar than I thought. Could explain, but that would take a while.
The FBI has had a file on me since the mid 1970’s because of what my father-in-law did for a living. They contacted my neighbors in NM about us and the usual routine. Father-in-law assured me that they knew what I did for a living and about my family and life. My wife and I were married 8 years before I knew what he did. We were very close. I took him for his last visit to the plant 3 years ago last October. There is an interesting story that went along with that. For another time.
In general we agree.
It is exceedingly difficult to differentiate Friend or Foe in this.
There are still Patriots in almost all organizations. The number is reducing each year.
The young do not know the difference or the danger with that.
Somehow this must be exposed, in spite of the MSM lies.
If the plan was to cut funding then this past Wednesday was not successful to their plan
NSA funding cut almost passes in House
An amendment put forward in the US House of Representatives on Wednesday, to defund National Security Agency programs that collect the telephone data on millions of Americans, was narrowly beat back.
Usually ideological opposties, namely Tea Party Republicans and liberal Democrats but forth the bill in the aftermath of disclosures about massive NSA surveillance programs, but they failed by a narrow margin with a vote of 205-217.
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/153458/nsa-funding-cut-almost-passes-in-house.html
Whatever.
<< I have also been subtly warned here with the comment “stay safe”. Has happened several times. The last time that happened I replied “I am not sure that is always possible today”. >>
That was most likely Squantos. He’s said that for years. He’s a White Hat. :-)
Back in the early 90’s we used to ‘chat’ with programmers at home and we saw each letter they typed and would laugh when they would correct unimportant spelling mistakes... slowed us down. I know when my typing is being watched when my cursor goes shaky.
Could be you are on to something. So far we actually know nothing other than what we have been told and the only thing we have been told is Snowden is a traitor by those governing us.
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