Posted on 07/26/2013 8:13:23 AM PDT by IbJensen
On the eve of a House vote Wednesday on his amendment to curb the National Security Agency's daily dragnet collection of Americans' phone records, Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted, "Washington's elites fear liberty. They fear you." On Thursday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (shown) demonstrated just how eager he is to join the Washington elite.
Speaking at the Republican Governors Conference in Aspen, Colorado, Christie delivered what Aaron Blake at the Washington Post described as a "clear broadside" against Republicans of a libertarian bent, including Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, expected to be competing with Christie for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.
"As a former prosecutor who was appointed by President George W. Bush on Sept. 10, 2001, I just want us to be really cautious, because this strain of libertarianism that's going through both parties right now and making big headlines, I think, is a very dangerous thought," Christie said.
Asked whether he meant to include Paul in that call for caution, Christie said, "You can name any one of them that's engaged in this. I want them to come to New Jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation.... I'm very nervous about the direction this is moving in."
One of the things making Christie nervous is the battle for privacy rights against what some see as a flagrant overreach by the federal government in the kind of surveillance conducted by the NSA in the name of national security. "I think what we as a country have to decide is: Do we have amnesia? Because I don't," Christie said. "And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001."
By citing both September 10 and September 12 of the year 2001, Christie has September 11 surrounded, perhaps with the thought of capturing it as his issue for 2016. By doing so he would be picking up the mantle of fallen presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani, who campaigned so hard on that tragic event in the 2008 campaign that Joe Biden suggested every sentence from the former New York mayor contained only three things: "a noun, a verb and 9/11."
Over more than a decade now, there have been a lot of explanations offered for the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and our nation's inability to detect and prevent it. Some have blamed lax security or intelligence failures, or an attention deficit regarding terrorist threats on the part the president at the time, the aforementioned George W. Bush. Some blamed it on inadequate response to previous terror attacks, while others cited our nation's long record of military interventions and political machinations in the Middle East, including the imposition of no-fly zones in, and an economic embargo against, Iraq — or, to borrow a phrase from the late columnist Joseph Sobran, it may have been due to "all the good will we built up through years of bombing Arab cities and starving Arab children."
But Gov. Christie is way ahead of the curve. He has already figured out who is to blame for the next 9/11 if, God forbid, there should be one. Future widows and orphans will be able to blame those libertarian members of Congress, who take seriously their oath of office and want to put some real constitutional and statutory restraint on the activities of that "big government." Republicans rail against big government on the campaign trails, while generously funding it in the intervals between elections. They are the true "wacko birds," as Sen. John McCain called Rand Paul and the handful of senators who supported Paul's filibuster over the president's use of drones to kill American citizens without due process of law.
Christie obviously approves of all the drone attacks and other bombings President Obama has ordered in Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and elsewhere, as well as our 12-year war grinding on in Afghanistan.
"I want to say that I think both the way President Bush conducted himself and the way President Obama has conducted himself in the main on those types of decisions hasn't been different because they were right and because we haven't had another one of those attacks that cost thousands and thousands of lives," Christie said. Of course, Bush's war in Iraq cost more "thousands of lives" than the 9/11 attacks. And Iraq was not involved in 9/11, a detail that Christie, like so many others, is willing to overlook.
The Amash amendment was not about dismantling America's defenses, or even the NSA, though the agency's very existence may be unconstitutional, since it was created by order of President Truman without Congress even knowing about it. What was proposed by the amendment was limiting the NSA's collection of telephone call records to investigation of actual terror suspects instead of its current practice of scooping up all the calls, along with all e-mails and other communications, of the entire population as a matter of daily routine. It is hardly a wild-eyed libertarian idea. While it lost by a narrow 12-vote margin, it attracted the support of a wide range of representatives, many of whom could hardly be classified as libertarians. Even Wisconsin Republican Jim Sensenbrenner, often "credited" as a legislative author of the PATRIOT Act, voted for the amendment. But after an all-out lobbying effort by White House and members and friends of the "national security" establishment, the supporters of the amendment were outnumbered by its foes. As the Washington Times observed in its editorial summation:
"A strange coalition of spooks, veterans of the George W. Bush White House, Republican and Democratic committee chairmen and the Obama administration emerged from the shadows to prevent the defunding of the domestic spying. Nothing creates 'bipartisanship' quite like undermining the Constitution."
Stay in New Jersey, Fatso.
He is making Bobby Bacala look like a freaking genius more and more every day...
He’s a little slow; so did Kant.
He’s a suppurating buttwart!
Three years from now Christie will join other RINO ‘useful idiots’ on the political scap heap.
Christie is indeed a dangerous man.
Indeed it is. Ask the British.
I like it better when they stand out in the open like that, rather than trying to hide their authoritarianism behind the letter R.
He finds Rand Paul dangerous but struts through the storm damage hand-in-hand with Obama.
Christie is Michael Moore with a shave.
Christie should be commended for his work in bringing New Jersey back to economic reality. There, let the adulation for Christie as a Conservative spokesman, stop. His comments, here, show not only a total inability to see the full picture, with respect to the objectionable surveillance of American citizens; but his phraseology, in urging a one-sided approach, is unnecessarily harmful to Republican prospects. He could have stated his opinions more respectfully, to say the least.
Anyone who sees the broader picture, will recognize that whatever we do, in this area of concern, involves dangers. We have to carefully evaluate our priorities, and some of us will always insist that no decision must include a surrender of the heritage vindicated by the British surrender at Yorktown, and ratified before the World in the Treaty of Paris (1783).
Again, because I still hope that we can work together, we should pay Christie deserved respect for his work on New Jersey finances. At the same time, we should demand respect back for those of us who are unwilling to sacrifice Liberty to a form of Collectivist Utilitarianism.
In this I am not naive enough to believe that Christie will be won over--not unless enough of his constituents send him the same message, and he learns that his present approach is politically unacceptable.
William Flax
I believe there is a test to run for the GOPe nomination.
The first question is: What will you say that will turn off the conservatives and help the democrats?
In the case of Christie, I just want to paraphrase: Shut up and eat!
I believe there is a big difference in Liberty and libertarianism. I do not belive christie is for either, he’s just another big government guy. He points back to 911 and says that we need to give up our Liberty so this won’t happen again. Our government had enough information and reason to be on the look out for and stop the 911 terrorist but was too big and too involved with turf wars and not sharing information and of course not willing to profile terrorist, to do their job and protect us. Instead of fixing that he appears to be for even more big government and for the government to be able to intrude in and be made aware of every phone call, e-mail we make and where we go and what our thermostats are set on , how we spend our money. More taxes, more government control over our lives. christie is a big, big government guy and 911 to him is an excuse to grow government and reduce our Freedom and Liberty. He is not and never was a Conservative. POCC
I predict Crispy rides shotgun with Hildebeast on the Commie ticket in 2016.
Anybody who thinks this guy with the oversized ego should run for president suffers from mental malfunction.
If he is the nominee, I stay home on election day. Same for rubio.
I think King George said the same thing a little over 200 years ago...
Of course, when you ask for 'transparency' in government, you get lies, obfuscation, and threats.
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