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Facing Facts about Race [VDH]
National Review ^ | 7/23/2013 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/23/2013 3:59:18 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

Young black males are at greater risk from their peers than from the police or white civilians.

Last week President Obama weighed in again on the Trayvon Martin episode. Sadly, most of what he said was wrong, both literally and ethically.

Pace the president, the Zimmerman case was not about Stand Your Ground laws. It was not a white-on-black episode. The shooting involved a Latino of mixed heritage in a violent altercation with a black youth.

Is it ethical for the president to weigh in on a civil-rights case apparently being examined by his own Justice Department? The president knows that if it is true that African-American males are viewed suspiciously, it is probably because statistically they commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. If that were not true, they might well be given no more attention as supposed suspects than is accorded to white, Asian, or Latino youths. Had George Zimmerman been black, he would have been, statistically at least, more likely to have shot Trayvon Martin — and statistically likewise less likely to have been tried. (snip)

... few people — and certainly not Barack Obama or Eric Holder, who have a bad habit, in an increasingly multiracial country, of claiming solidarity on the basis of race — will care that Khin Min and Lina Lim were torn to pieces by bullets and a knife. Few will care that they died in a vicious assault that had nothing to do with stereotyping, Stand Your Ground self-defense, weak gun laws, insufficient federal civil-rights legislation, or any of the other causes of interracial violence falsely advanced by the attorney general — but quite a lot to do with an urban culture that for unspoken reasons has spawned an epidemic of disproportionate violent crime on the part of young African-American males.

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Facts are stubborn things.
1 posted on 07/23/2013 3:59:18 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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VDH ping.


3 posted on 07/23/2013 4:01:09 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Nice article.


4 posted on 07/23/2013 4:04:15 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: grundle
State Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago) says ‘Maybe The Police Are Killing Some Of These Kids’
5 posted on 07/23/2013 4:06:37 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Dear VDH... there is nothing ethical in obama’s makeup... he is devoid of all righteousness. That is all.
6 posted on 07/23/2013 4:12:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Bump.


7 posted on 07/23/2013 4:13:48 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: LibLieSlayer

How anyone can ascribe honorable intentions to anything Obie says is beyond me.


8 posted on 07/23/2013 4:16:33 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: ransacked

“Nice article.”

But completely lost on those who need to hear the message the most.

As long as black on white crime is studiously ignored by the mass media, and our AG refuses to prosecute “his people”, we’re in for a very rough ride.

“Be Prepared” is so much more than the Boy Scout motto...


9 posted on 07/23/2013 4:21:47 AM PDT by Tigerized
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To: Excellence

srbfl


10 posted on 07/23/2013 4:26:46 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
If Chris Matthews wishes to apologize collectively for whites, then he should have long ago moved to an integrated neighborhood, put his children in integrated schools, and walked to work through a black neighborhood to get to know local residents. Anything else, and his apology remains what it is: cheap psychological recompense for his own elite apartheid.

Well put.

11 posted on 07/23/2013 5:06:50 AM PDT by randita
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To: Servant of the Cross
Lasat paragraphs in this article

What were the names of two of the men suspected of being the ones who last week shot it out with the Santa Rosa jeweler as Eric Holder demagogued the Trayvon Martin shooting?

Traveon Banks-Austin and Alexander Tyvon Brandon.

Cue the music from "The Twilight Zone"

12 posted on 07/23/2013 5:14:40 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Traveon Banks-Austin and Alexander Tyvon Brandon

Two more Sons Of Barack. He could have been them 35 years ago.

There are quite a few blacks who have a civilized culture but the prevailing black culture is very warped and the teenage male subset is psychopathic.

We keep talking about 'race' but it is culture, not race, that is their problem. Many young African blacks who come to this country are much more civilized than young American blacks since they were not raised as ganstas who want to become famous rappers and NBA stars. They want to learn, to work, to succeed. LBJ and his Great Society took our poor black families, under the appearance of "help," and proceeded to destroy them by setting up the government as the bread winner for poor black families and pushing the fathers out of the picture. Who needs a father and a family when you've got your gang?

Obama and Holder should admit that that black culture is disfunctional instead of telling white people it is all our fault because we are racist and we profile.

Black "leaders" do NOTHING to try to help fix the problem but just sit and watch it worsen. And earn power and money off it. People like Cosby occasionally speak the truth but they are trashed, laughed at, or ignored. If only these people would band together and forcefully tell the truth, things could slowly turn around. It will take many years. But unless we get obama and his minions out, the economic situation will not improve and the task will be much harder.

Several months ago, a liberal friend of mine (yes, I have a few) was looking at an article about some group (American Indians maybe?) and their problems. I hadn't read the article but only saw the headline. As he put the paper down he said, "I'm starting to think the more we try to help people, the more we hurt them." I was stunned into silence.

We both had places to go to right away, so it was not a time to start a conversation, and we spoke our 'seeyalaters.' Maybe that was for the best, since anything I said might have made him think, "Wow, I must be losing it. I agree with a crazy conservative. It must just be a momentary thing. Gotta get my progressive mind back in charge." Maybe letting that thought that he arrived at on his own simmer was for the best. Some day in the future, when the time is right, I might need to say, "Remember the time you said..."

13 posted on 07/23/2013 5:24:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Tigerized

Race vs Race
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls

Offenders by Race
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm

JUSTICE dept figures! See charts...

In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites

From 1976 to 2005 —

* 86% of white victims were killed by whites
* 94% of black victims were killed by blacks


14 posted on 07/23/2013 5:39:24 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

flr


15 posted on 07/23/2013 5:43:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
There are quite a few blacks who have a civilized culture but the prevailing black culture is very warped and the teenage male subset is psychopathic.

Let's not forget that black culture is also anti-education. Apparently in the last 30 years or so, it became a sign of weakness to be educated. Educated blacks are called "Uncle Tom's" or "Plantation Niggers," because education and academia in general are considered "white establishment."

It's truly mind-boggling to me that blacks have turned the way they have. Not 60 years ago, blacks in this country went through an enormous struggle for genuine equality in American society. They had goals and dreams and aspirations. Black men and women became doctors, nurses, lawyers, and teachers. They raised families, were ardent churchgoing people, and loved the same music and television that the rest of the nation enjoyed.

Nowadays, blacks are looking for any get-rich-quick scheme available. They waste their money on lotto. They don't want to work. They disdain white people and American culture in general. They aspire to little more than meeting "the man's" very low social bar. They eschew the music and television of white people, American people in general. They find more pleasure in a quick hook up, pornography, expensive liquor, and cultural norms that glorify money, cars, naked women, and materialism overall.

Older blacks are watching as all of the hard work they put in for genuine equality is being thrown into the wastebin of history in lieu of a materialistic, violent, unethical lifestyle espoused by every man and woman in black culture.

There are notable exceptions, don't misunderstand me, but the norm seems to be as described.

16 posted on 07/23/2013 5:56:25 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.d)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Again, Holder may offer his 15-year-old son the same warning that his father gave him about the dangers of racist, stereotyping police.

Nah. He should offer Chris Rock's warning on How not to get your ass kicked by the police.

17 posted on 07/23/2013 5:57:02 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: rarestia

The black culture isn’t a culture of itself,

it is an “anti-culture”, it is a rebellion to “white” culture, which is only a proxy for Christian values and God’s Law, which is what the left is truly in rebellion to.


18 posted on 07/23/2013 5:58:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Correct.

Nothing ethical about the whole damned Government any more.

The place needs a good housecleaning.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 6:01:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: TurboZamboni

Noted information


20 posted on 07/23/2013 6:03:27 AM PDT by GirlShortstop (Every person has a duty to seek and serve the truth. Abp Charles J. Chaput, OFMCap)
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