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Pictures of military science from 1913
Daily Mail UK ^ | 07/16/2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 07/17/2013 8:16:57 AM PDT by DFG

A fascinating collection of illustrations shows how America keenly observed Britain and Germany as the countries prepared for the first world war - long before the United States was drawn into battle.

In 1913, before WWI even began, military scientists watched from across the Atlantic as the rival nations raced to build more efficient and effective weapons in a bid to control sea, sky and land.

The images, published originally by the magazine Scientific American in 1913 and again on its website this week, mostly depict these weapons, though some of the drawings show mistaken assumptions about how a war would be fought.

Civilians and military planners were consumed by the idea that enemy airplanes would suddenly appear out of nowhere to rain deadly bombs on towns and cities of the allied nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: 1913; armament; military; wwi
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1 posted on 07/17/2013 8:16:57 AM PDT by DFG
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The U.S. was also concerned about the growing strength of the Japanese Navy (built mostly by the British), which had annihilated the Russian Navy and won the Russo-Japanese War of 1905.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 8:21:43 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: DFG

Interesting. Thanks.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 8:27:04 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DFG
The USS Texas, shown with its original cage masts, which were replaced by tripod masts in the 1920's, is today docked adjacent the San Jacinto monument.
4 posted on 07/17/2013 8:29:11 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Every major country built dreadnought battleships as a sign of national power. By 1918 there were scores of them, all built at tremendous cost. Despite this, there was only one “fleet engagement” between the Royal Navy and High Seas Fleet for a few hours at Jutland in 1916.

Only one dreadnought from that era remains: the USS Texas. All the others were scrapped, or rest at the bottom of the sea.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 8:40:58 AM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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-——the USS Texas——

Been there. It is docked in the Houston ship channel. In spite of being a dreadnaught, it is really not that big and internal spaces quite cramped. Neverthe less it is well worth a visit. It is painted Navy Blue, not Navy gray

More importantly, Within sight is the San Jacinto battle field. That is the field where Texans under Sam Houston slaughtered the Mexican army in about 18 minutes. They changed the world in that battle on that day. Texas became Texas

Their ad hoc coming together should be our model fo going forward.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 8:49:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: DFG

Deck gun: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/17/article-2366435-1AD8323B000005DC-187_634x634.jpg

Makes my back ache just looking at.


7 posted on 07/17/2013 8:55:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: henkster

I think they are using the term “Dreadnought” wrong. The WWI battleships were of the next generation.


8 posted on 07/17/2013 8:58:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: DFG
There is some odd malrky in the captions:

Mines have some military use but their main effect over the years has been on civilian populations Left wing spin

torpedoes were occasionally used to deadly effect by surface warships but they were most harmful when used against merchant shipping and civilian seagoing vessels Tell that to the crews of the HMS Cressey, the HMS Aboukir and the HMS Hogue.

9 posted on 07/17/2013 9:02:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Or the Bismark.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 9:06:59 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: DFG
"....how America keenly observed Britain and Germany as the countries prepared for the first world war...."

Would have been a good time to develop our own main battle rifles - and in sufficient quantities....

11 posted on 07/17/2013 9:08:12 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: DFG

Nice article.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 9:10:35 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BenLurkin

Wait... where’s he putting that shell?


13 posted on 07/17/2013 9:21:21 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: henkster

Those old battleships were good platforms for bombarding the enemy shore prior to invasion.


14 posted on 07/17/2013 9:23:15 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Wait... where’s he putting that shell?

LOL!

15 posted on 07/17/2013 9:26:42 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DFG

Occssionally one encouters a rogue sheepdog on Free Republic. Fortunately I have not seen one lately.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 9:34:19 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: henkster

If the British had lost Jutland, there would have been many fleet actions, to include the bombardment of London.In

In response to the dreadnought, the “Jeune Ecole” or new school developed the torpedo boat. Admiral Fisher’s response to that was the torpedo boat destroyer, to defend large slow firing dreadnoughts from small fast boats with torpedoes. Destroyers fielded smaller quick firing guns.

Dreadnoughts were also used in an attempt to put Constantinople under their guns, but were turned back by mines and shore defenses. That failure led to the landings of Gallipoli and Suvla.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 9:39:04 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: henkster

Olympia, a protected Cruiser is even earlier, but served at the same time as Texas, as well as serving as Admiral Dewey’s flagship at Manila. It is docked in Philadelphia, and is under severe risk as maintenance has been underfunded for a long time.

George Dewey was the only “6 star” Admiral of the US Navy, but was a Commodore at the time of the battle of Manila.


18 posted on 07/17/2013 9:46:35 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: BenLurkin
I think they are using the term “Dreadnought” wrong. The WWI battleships were of the next generation.

Yes. The New Yorks, of which Texas was the second ship, was the first US "Super-Dreadnought" class - heavier because of the upgrade from 12" to 14" main guns.

The picture of the Texas in the article is neat because it shows that, as initially constructed, she was pretty much all-gun above the main deck with only the small conning tower, the funnels and the firecontrol cage masts. Quite a difference from her appearance at the end of WWII with the additional superstructure that was added over the course of her career to handle radio, radar, command-and-control/CIC and other functions.
19 posted on 07/17/2013 9:47:06 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: donmeaker

I’ve been on the Olympia; Dewey’s footprints are marked on the flying bridge where he gave the order “You may fire when ready, Gridley.”

I’ve also been on the Texas, but I was very young then. I don’t remember that much about her. Other musuem ships I’ve visited:

USS North Carolina
USS Alabama
USS Lexington
USS Intrepid
USS Silversides
U-505

A vacation isn’t a vacation without a trip to a museum ship. A pity there aren’t more of them.


20 posted on 07/17/2013 10:05:38 AM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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