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Chinese find 5,000-year-old writing
San Angelo Standard-Times ^ | 07/10/2013 | Didi Tang

Posted on 07/10/2013 9:19:40 PM PDT by TexGrill

BEIJING — Archaeologists say they have discovered some of the world’s oldest known primitive writing, dating back about 5,000 years, in eastern China, and some of the markings etched on broken axes resemble a modern Chinese character.

The inscriptions on artifacts found at a relic site south of Shanghai are about 1,400 years older than the oldest written Chinese language. Chinese scholars are divided over whether the markings are words or something simpler, but they say the finding will shed light on the origins of Chinese language and culture.

The oldest writing in the world is believed to be from Mesopotamia, dating back slightly more than 5,000 years. Chinese characters are believed to have been developed independently.

Inscriptions were found on more than 200 pieces dug out from the Neolithic-era Liangzhu relic site. The pieces are among thousands of fragments of ceramic, stone, jade, wood, ivory and bone excavated from the site between 2003 and 2006, lead archaeologist Xu Xinmin said.

The inscriptions have not been reviewed by experts outside the country, but a group of Chinese scholars on archaeology and ancient writing met last weekend in Zhejiang province to discuss the finding.

(Excerpt) Read more at gosanangelo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; ccp; china; chinahistory; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; liangzhu; neolithic; olmecs; oraclebones; shang; shangdynasty
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1 posted on 07/10/2013 9:19:40 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

I’d be suspicious of this until outside groups verify it. I’ve read speeches from Chinese generals putting forward racist theories about the origin of their people based on claims of evolving separately from the rest of mankind, and having been the first to do this or that alleged feat.


2 posted on 07/10/2013 9:21:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Oh, yeah; the Arabs have the same line.


3 posted on 07/10/2013 9:23:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: TexGrill
Chinese find 5,000-year-old writing

Translated it says "Never trust a DemoRat."

4 posted on 07/10/2013 9:24:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


5 posted on 07/10/2013 9:25:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Navy Patriot

I was thinking:

Milk
Bread
Ketchup
Eggs


6 posted on 07/10/2013 9:26:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“Drink your Ovaltine.”


7 posted on 07/10/2013 9:31:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: TexGrill

This seems credible as it puts this “proto writing” at some 600 years after the Middle East, according to another source. The famous turtle shell predictions writing coming some 1400 years later is quite advanced and an unlikely first attempt. The cast inscriptions in bronz ware follows shortly after the turtle shells and, taken together hint at a fairly long prior development. For the life of me, I can’t understand why the Chinese persist with written language that is so difficult to learn.


8 posted on 07/10/2013 9:32:03 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: TexGrill
and some of the markings etched on broken axes resemble a modern Chinese character.

*Broken* axes. What do you figure they say "Made in China"?

9 posted on 07/10/2013 9:32:26 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: TexGrill

That’s just fifty 100 year lifespans back to back.
Really ain’t that long, now that I’m getting a perspective on what a century is.


10 posted on 07/10/2013 9:38:42 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels—bring home for Emma.”


11 posted on 07/10/2013 9:40:44 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: TexGrill

Was it a Burma Shave ad?


12 posted on 07/10/2013 9:41:21 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: TexGrill

I didn’t know that Helen Thomas could write in Chinese.


13 posted on 07/10/2013 9:42:52 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Navy Patriot

“Damn, Helen Thomas is ugly.”


14 posted on 07/10/2013 9:49:43 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: TexGrill

Do they read cursive?


15 posted on 07/10/2013 9:59:22 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: JimSEA

This seems credible as it puts this “proto writing” at some 600 years after the Middle East, according to another source. The famous turtle shell predictions writing coming some 1400 years later is quite advanced and an unlikely first attempt. The cast inscriptions in bronz ware follows shortly after the turtle shells and, taken together hint at a fairly long prior development. For the life of me, I can’t understand why the Chinese persist with written language that is so difficult to learn.

Personally I think there was a pre-ice age civilisation that could be from 250,000 to 50,000 years old.


16 posted on 07/10/2013 10:30:37 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: TexGrill

Looking at the picture,it could be a fish with a spear in it.

It’s pretty much a Rorschach test on a stone blade. No reason to think it’s writing.


17 posted on 07/10/2013 10:30:51 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: bigbob
Written Chinese is ALL cursive, but there are no letters.

中国文字是所有草书,但已没有字母。

Zhōngguó wénzì shì suǒyǒu cǎoshū, dàn yǐ méiyǒu zìmǔ.

18 posted on 07/10/2013 10:45:47 PM PDT by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: TexGrill

0bama’s BC?


19 posted on 07/10/2013 10:58:38 PM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: ctdonath2

One of the great science fiction stories of all time.


20 posted on 07/10/2013 11:23:52 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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