Posted on 06/26/2013 8:50:50 AM PDT by mbarker12474
On the lack of standing decision, effectively allowing the Ninth Circuit decision to stand, which overturned California's Proposition 8: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-144_8ok0.pdf HOLLINGSWORTH ET AL. v. PERRY ET AL.
On the overturn of the federal DOMA Defense of Marriage Act, via the case of a female couple in New York state, legally married under New York law. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf UNITED STATES v. WINDSOR, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF SPYER, ET AL.
On the overturn of the federal DOMA Defense of Marriage Act, via the case of a female couple in New York state, legally married under New York law. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf UNITED STATES v. WINDSOR, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF SPYER, ET AL.
The US travels toward Sodom and Gomorrah.
Very bad ruling in California SCOTUS position. A punt that leaves the lawlessness of the California Supreme Court intact.
This leaves all state laws & state constitutions to the whim of an administration. In the event that an Attorney General of a particular state decides not to uphold civil rights legislation in a given states constitution, what is it to prevent him from doing so?
So the elected politicians don’t have to enforce the laws passed by the legislature or voting public. Gotcha.
Open borders here we are.
The next president can sink Obamacare by refusing to enforce it at all as can every governor.
Oh what a pretty bride!
Conservatives want homosexuals to enjoy the richness and fullness of life that marriage to someone of the opposite sex gives you. Liberals want the homosexuals money and votes and want them to die childless and soon. Which side cares more about the homosexuals?
Perhaps conservative states need to look for ways to divorce themselves from the battering they are taking from their abusive “partner” in D.C.
Worse. It will eventually come back to “comity” and all states will have to observe MA or CA law. It invalidates the Edmonds Act and I cannot see how this can not open the door for polygamy, then beastiality, then incest. Once the definition is gone, any definition is accepted.
“effectively allowing the Ninth Circuit decision to stand”
I believe that is technically incorrect.
Paraphrasing Andrew Jackson: “The SCOTUS has made its decision, now let them enforce it.”
The Prop 8 5-4 ruling/punt was written by Roberts, and joined by Kagan, Breyer, Ginsburg and Scalia. Strange bedfellows.
>> effectively allowing the Ninth Circuit decision to stand
> I believe that is technically incorrect.
Point well-taken. I may have misstated or confused something. .... Like everybody else, I read some three paragraph news story and haven’t read the actual Slip Decision. ;)
“The practical impact of dismissing the Prop. 8 case is limited. It leaves the lower court ruling striking down Prop. 8 in place, applying statewide at best. However, the ruling may apply only to couples who directly challenged Prop. 8, or the counties in which they originally made those challenges. The lawyers who defended Prop. 8 said Wednesday that they are committed to seeing that Prop. 8 is enforced in the state.
“We are happy Prop. 8 remains the law of California,” Austin Nimocks, senior counsel with Alliance Defending Freedom, said outside of the court.”
“We have no authority to decide this case on the merits, and neither did the 9th Circuit,” Roberts said, referring to the federal appeals court that also struck down Proposition 8.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-06-26-10-33-00
“in August 2010, Judge Vaughn Walker of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California ruled that Proposition 8 violated the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. “
Walkers ruling still stands. It is the appeal to the 3-member appeal panel that is set aside. My guess is that a new and proper appeal will be filed. A county government has standing.
The Prop 8 case is arguably a non-story regarding the merits of gay marriage. It was a decision on standing.
Didn't the California Supreme Court uphold Prop. 8 and a Federal judge with the approval of the Ninth Circus overturn it?
This is a moment for spiritual clarity on our part, as the world gets spiritually foggier and darker.
What do we fight for, and how?
If we were old covenant Jews the answer would be plain enough: do whatever it takes to purify the physical country lest it physically perish.
However Christ has shifted the focus upon a heavenly land which has a physical manifestation in the world but is entirely supernatural in character. And that land does not need our fleshly efforts to survive. It does not have icons of anything, no matter how noble those are regarded to be in this world. No earthly country’s flag flies there. That fact busted the butt of the Pharisees, who imagined a Messiah that would prop up and grow their worldly pomp, not do away with it in an infinitely radical love.
What we see as a problem is (as always) God’s opportunity. God uses the increase of evil as a way of forcing the issue on people. We are informed that Christ’s mission in this world, till He reappears as final judge, is to offer salvation in any way possible to humanity, no grudges held, just an infinite spiritual love that peels the willingly yielded sinner away from all of his sin and re-molds him back in the image that God intended (a process technically called repentance, but God is the actual power in the engine of the process). We are bidden to “snatch some from the fire and save them.” God is an opportunistic God who won’t violate anybody’s will but will go to extravagant lengths to bring them salvation if by any means they will accept. If the Cross with God on it Himself is not proof of this, I do not know what is proof.
God, through the gospel, will not accept mission scope reduction to the attempted salvation of a physical country. It’s every person responsible for dealing with his or her own sin. Bring it to the cross, or perish. And for those who will accept God’s opportunistic mission and share the gospel of extraordinary salvation, there are blessings beyond measure.
yes, you have it about right.
Walker ruling was appealed to appeal panel.
Today, the decision of that appeal panel was set aside because the plaintiffs, appealing the Walker decision, had no standing.
Local California officials (county, town) need to stand up for traditional marriage and either get sued or they themselves can look for an opportunity to sue. It would be more interesting if our side were more litigious.
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