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BREAKING: Zimmerman Judge Rules Out Audio Experts
TTAG ^ | JUNE 22, 2013 | Robert Farago

Posted on 06/22/2013 9:24:04 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

“In a major blow for the prosecution in the George Zimmerman case, a judge on Saturday barred the testimony of two audio experts who suggested that a taped 911 call indicated Trayvon Martin was crying out for help during the violent struggle that ended with a gunshot,”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: braking; florida; georgezimmerman; mistrial; notbreakingnews; testimony; trayvonmartin; trial; zimmerman
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To: EDINVA
and no reference to racial profiling

Tiny step on that one, using just the word "profiling" is still in, along with "wannabe cop" and "vigilante".

61 posted on 06/22/2013 11:09:08 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Mouton

From the moment the lead prosecutor stepped to the mic and said it was about “justice for Travon” it’s been nothing but a sham. They should all be cast out, disbarred and sued personally as well as criminally, so they end up as they’d have left Zimmerman. All of this was done under the color and authority of the state, at taxpayers’ expense. The prosecutors, their experts, everyone involved on that side has been paid by the taxpayers of the State of Florida. All the while they punished Zimmerman for not disclosing $ in a defense fund. What a disgrace and complete mockery of justice.


62 posted on 06/22/2013 11:10:32 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Bushbacker1

Why do you believe the judge is corrupt?


63 posted on 06/22/2013 11:11:28 AM PDT by CityCenter (Pleading the 5th is just so 1972.)
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To: eddie willers
I am no audio expert, but I have sold HiFi gear all my life and the idea that distant background voices recorded by a microphone from the lowest bidder, digitized to the smallest bit-rate possible, sent through other electronic means and then laid on another recorder could have any testimony worthy information is ludicrous.


Why not?

We see it every week on the NCIS and CIS TV shows...:^)

64 posted on 06/22/2013 11:23:50 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: Redmen4ever

This prosecution has little to do with what is in order from a legal standpoint. It has a lot to do political creatures fearfully pandering to the black grievance industry.

The real villains in this case aren’t in that courtroom or dead and buried.

Al Sharpton, Natalie Jackson, Ben Crump and the other purveyors of racial animosity did what they do. It’s a safe bet they got an assist from Eric Holder and the Community Relations Service, and they certainly got a public endorsement from “If I had a son” Obama.

All it took from that point was the green light from Pam Bondi and Rick Scott, both Republicans, and the prosecutorial fix was in. Angela Corey, Republican, was selected to do the dirty deed.

Oh, there are others, like the folks at the Orlando Sentinel who saw the money to be had in maintaining and stoking a false controversy. Throw in NBC and their creative tape editing, too.

What about the enlightened folks that passed young Mr. Martin through the juvenile justice system without an arrest record because it was a considered more important to keep the arrest of black youths statistically low than to enforce the rules as written?

Mr. Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin because he was in fear for his life. Our society chose to prosecute Mr. Zimmerman because we are more afraid of threats of mob violence and of being called racists than we are angry at the idea of unjust prosecutions. The rule of law is a trifle compared to our collective cowardice.


65 posted on 06/22/2013 11:28:49 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: SilverMine

“I don’t believe this trial is about guilt or not guilty, it as all about social unrest, riots and mayhem in the streets of the big inner cities.”

I think that’s true. A “not guilty” means that city burns and likely other cities burn, too, due to Sharpton and Jackson wanting cities to burn over the whole country.


66 posted on 06/22/2013 11:44:01 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The fear of Florida authorities that race riots could erupt are well founded. Jacksonville has a record going way back. Important buildings downtown have solid concrete faces - no windows. High schools call in the police on a regular basis to quell the fighting. It’s not pretty.


67 posted on 06/22/2013 11:58:05 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The person crying for help in the audio is the victim—George Zimmerman.


68 posted on 06/22/2013 11:58:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Liberty Wins

We can’t allow our justice system to be intimidated by threats from a mob.


69 posted on 06/22/2013 12:02:57 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Cboldt
"They are still available to the defense. I don’t see a great use for them, off the top of my head, but they can be called."

oooo..I wouldn't open THAT door.

70 posted on 06/22/2013 12:07:57 PM PDT by Tula Git
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To: YankeeReb
I'd vote to free Zimmerman.

There's no way this man can get a fair trial.

That makes you an Informed Juror, the person most feared by the Statist.

71 posted on 06/22/2013 12:08:18 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
We can’t allow our justice system to be intimidated by threats from a mob.

Fortunately for the Socialist left, the mob doesn't need to intimidate to get what they want.

Tagline.

72 posted on 06/22/2013 12:17:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The sum total of the ruling and the only parts that have any bearing on the case...

“Based upon the above, it is ORDERED:
That the opinion testimony of Mr. Owen and Dr. Reich are hereby excluded from
trial.
This order does not prevent the parties from playing the tapes at trial or from
calling witnesses familiar with the voice of the Defendant or Martin to testify regarding
the identity of the person(s) making the screams.”


73 posted on 06/22/2013 12:21:15 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Redmen4ever

Once the jury is sworn, any dismissal of the case would be with prejudice. They could not try him again.


74 posted on 06/22/2013 12:24:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
“Even if Zimmerman is found guilty, it will probably be a manslaughter conviction, not first or second degree murder.”

Even manslaughter in this case would carry a 30 year sentence in prison.

75 posted on 06/22/2013 12:25:47 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Cboldt

It was the prosecution experts that were epecfically not allowed, The judges orders did not exclude the defense’s experts.

Since the defense experts were not disallowed, their testimony is allowed to be presented to refute anything anyone else presents in the case rendering any prosecution testimony as invalid.

The judge sided with thew defense, not against it.

I apologize for any typos, the spell check function declared EVERY word as being misspelled.


76 posted on 06/22/2013 12:25:47 PM PDT by dglang
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To: Gay State Conservative

The judge specifically named the prosecution experts as non-admissible. She did NOT exclude the defense experts who can now be used as expert testimony to refute anyone who claims to be able to identify Martin as the ‘screamer’.


77 posted on 06/22/2013 12:29:28 PM PDT by dglang
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To: Beagle8U

Then afterwards will come the Civil Rights lawsuit.


78 posted on 06/22/2013 12:29:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: livius

she DID NOT rule out the defense experts and therefore their testimony can be used to refute the validity of anyone claiming to be able to determine the ‘screamer’.


79 posted on 06/22/2013 12:32:16 PM PDT by dglang
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To: ArmstedFragg

Actually it only excludes the states ‘expert’ witnesses. It doesn’t exclude the defense’s witnesses from being allowed to state that it is impossible to derive any conclusions of who is screaming. It also doesn’t excludes the suspected ‘witness’ who heard the screams and thought that it was Zimmerman.


80 posted on 06/22/2013 12:39:54 PM PDT by dglang
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