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1 posted on 06/20/2013 3:54:10 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

And what are they afraid of...4% of the population that would never vote Rep anyway? What’s this all about? Maybe they’re own perversion hidden in a closet?
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2 posted on 06/20/2013 3:56:57 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: EveningStar
"....especially the younger ones, are now supporters of gay marriage."

As an old friend used to say, "I'm not young enough to be wise...."

3 posted on 06/20/2013 3:58:18 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: EveningStar
They know they are losing the fight over public opinion and that their complaints are not going to convince anybody

Public opinion means nothing to me. God's opinion, however, is eternally more important. Jesus tells us that those that enable sin (like Sen. Muttkowsky) are going to be judged even more harshly than those that are led to sin.

5 posted on 06/20/2013 4:18:33 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: EveningStar

It’s what the GOP does, isn’t it?


6 posted on 06/20/2013 4:20:07 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: EveningStar

I care more about the judgment of God than the judgment of history.


7 posted on 06/20/2013 4:22:09 PM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: EveningStar

I’m more of a live and let live kind of person. So this is not a big issue for me.


8 posted on 06/20/2013 4:22:36 PM PDT by Durbin
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In short, normal moral people have not the strength to resist.


9 posted on 06/20/2013 4:24:28 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I'm amazed at the extent to which conservatives overlook the most significant arguments against so-called gay marriage:
  1. The term "marriage" is used to refer to a type of relationship into which humans entered before the invention of government or religion, and probably language as well. Many animals enter into such relationships as well, suggesting that humans' affinity for such relationships cannot be regarded as a product of religion or government. That government may start calling some other kind of relationship a "marriage" does not make it one.
  2. Many people and institutions wish to provide benefits to married persons [as defined above] which they do not wish to provide to other persons. The real purpose of the "gay marriage" movement is to not to give gay people rights, but rather to deny such persons and institutions the right to decide upon whom their benefits will be bestowed.
If conservatives had expressed things in those terms, those pushing "gay marriage" would have been far less welcome in many circles.

PS--It might not hurt for conservatives to point out that the majority of first marriages do not end in divorce or separation.

14 posted on 06/20/2013 4:39:17 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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Josh Barro is the scum-sucking dirtbag who got John Derbyshire turfed from National Review. He is a prime example of how ethnic quotas for white Hispanics (aka Conquistador Americans) supercharges the effects of the Peter Principle.


16 posted on 06/20/2013 5:00:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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We need to stop arguing against it on biblical grounds and instead focus on the public health issue posed by out of wedlock sex in general and homosexual sex in particular.

Acting on one’s homosexual impulses reduces ones lifespan by more than Obesity, Smoking, and being an Alcoholic COMBINED. In fact it's not even close.

Where are the mommy state liberals on this issue??? Why would Nanny Bloomberg focus on the head cold of large soda's while ignoring the black plague of homosexuality? If all powerfull government is really interested in protecting us from ourselves then liberals ought to be at the forefront of helping homosexuals to stop acting on their impulses.

19 posted on 06/20/2013 5:07:25 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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They know they are losing the fight over public opinion and that their complaints are not going to convince anybody.

Public opinion don't matter a twit if the issue is decided in the Supreme Court.

Public opinion was against Obamacare but some Bush appointee named Benedict Arnold Roberts did a backflip and turned public opinion on its ear.

At this point conservatives need to be fighting the battle of public opinion on Amnesty because if they lose on that issue a marginally two party system becomes totally a one party system.

20 posted on 06/20/2013 5:15:07 PM PDT by metafugitive
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To: EveningStar

Sorry for the ruckus. I wasn’t disagreeing with anyone. It was just my view on it. I wasn’t aware I could get attacked for that on here. My bad.


26 posted on 06/20/2013 5:38:09 PM PDT by Durbin
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This concept of “marriage” ... where did it come from? And who sets the rules?

Those who experience same-sex attraction are free to engage in sexual activity. But to call their relationship “marriage” is silliness.


33 posted on 06/20/2013 6:24:00 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t feel the need to discuss the modern invention of “gay marriage” with radical “homosexual rights” advocates.


34 posted on 06/20/2013 6:35:30 PM PDT by windsorknot
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This was a very strange article. He did a name search, and he came to the conclusion that conservatives do not want to talk about “gay marriage”. Lisa Murkowski is not exactly a leader in the GOP. Until this article, I never gave her a thought. My views on homosexuality are based upon Scripture and science, not politics. I would be depressed about the direction of our country on this matter if I were not familiar with church history. When Christianity began to spread throughout the pagan world, it encountered a culture in which homosexuality, pederasty, incest and prostitution were socially acceptable and even encouraged. The church called people to repentance and to abandon these practices before they could be followers of Jesus. We are back to the early days of Christianity. We are living in a pagan culture.
36 posted on 06/20/2013 7:48:56 PM PDT by Nemoque
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LOL!
Another faggot writer upset that the fabulous homo lobby isn’t getting any attention. This is the kind of pouting people have come to expect from ‘Business Insider’, the Democrats’ answer to the Wall Street journal, Forbes, IBD, and other - - real - - business publications.

What a yawn.


38 posted on 06/20/2013 8:22:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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IT'S OFFICIAL: Conservatives Can't Even Bear To Talk About Gay Marriage Anymore

That's what mainstream media wants everyone to think.  I think they're wrong.  I would love to talk about how evil and sick and perverse gay marriage is.  I believe it's an abomination.

39 posted on 06/20/2013 8:24:04 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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If 80% of Gays voted Conservative, does anyone here believe the Democrat Party would support Gay Rights?

If 80% of Hispanics voted Conservative, does anyone here believe the Democrat Party would support Amnesty?

Democrats have no character, only political ambition.

Contrast that with Conservatives.

At least 80% of Conservatives are “Friends of Israel,” even though 80% of American Jews despise us and vote against our candidates.


43 posted on 06/21/2013 1:06:25 AM PDT by zeestephen
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IT'S OFFICIAL: Conservatives Can't Even Bear To Talk About Gay Marriage Anymore

That's ok; for GOD is still talking about it!!





Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 

45 posted on 06/21/2013 8:12:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Then they’re NOT conservatives.


48 posted on 06/21/2013 8:30:49 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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