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To: EveningStar
They know they are losing the fight over public opinion and that their complaints are not going to convince anybody

Public opinion means nothing to me. God's opinion, however, is eternally more important. Jesus tells us that those that enable sin (like Sen. Muttkowsky) are going to be judged even more harshly than those that are led to sin.

5 posted on 06/20/2013 4:18:33 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

I don’t think we are losing the battle of public opinion. I think mainstream media is simply telling us that we are. Just think, could some guy have taken the place of your mother or some gal taken the place of your father? That’s what they are pushing and it’s a lie.


13 posted on 06/20/2013 4:36:09 PM PDT by Essie
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Well its not that they are losing in most cases they aren’t even fighting. The only reason gay marriage/homosexual norming has gained traction is because of media propaganda. Now conservative media could fill that gap but even folks like Rush Limbaugh and Levin have went mostly silent on the issue. They are cowards. Sean Hannity has been doing better of late but when you let the other side control the debate 90% of the time then what do we expect? Hell even in places where gay marriage won at the ballot box it was more because they outspent traditional marriage supporters 4 to 1 and even then traditional marriage was more competitive than Mitt Romney.

This is not an issue that we have to lose on. We have seen the profile of NOM and AFTAH rising but what we need is a true conservative news network to deal with this and other issues with out looking overtly religious. We have PhDs out there that never get invited on the TV shows to talk about this issue. We need to take the tact that has held the line on Global Warming. The science supporting gay born this way theory is just as pseudo scientific as anything coming out on climate change. What we are seeing is a lack of effort not a lack of ability to win.

The whole idea of gay ‘equality’ and gay ‘marriage’ are profoundly NOT conservative. Its the product of ‘sloppy thinking’ and anyone who accepts such premises certainly wouldn’t have any problem accepting most other left wing premises and as you see that is generally the case. Those who are most supportive of gay marriage and abortion on demand are almost always the most supportive of big government in general. If I list the most liberal GOP on gay marriage you are going to find the most liberal on abortion, the most liberal on immigration, the most liberal on guns, the most liberal on fiscal issues. Why do we think that is?

The whole gay marriage thing is just an extension of the same ‘free love 60s’ crap that has given us the wonderful gifts of high divorce rates and an explosion of single parent households which is producing children that are heading like on a malfunctioning assembly line to prison and or dependency. Its the dream of the 60s feminist. The deconstruction of the patriarchy and the family and now they are moving towards defining the very notion of a traditional family as bigoted and which entity benefits the most from this? Its the ever growing beast in DC.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 4:58:14 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.; MplsSteve
Public opinion means nothing to me. God's opinion, however, is eternally more important. . .

Minnesota state senator Dan Hall agrees with you.

49 posted on 06/21/2013 10:05:39 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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