NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants

cnet ^ | June 15, 2013 4:39 PM PDT | Declan McCullagh

[tje]

The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."

If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney who serves on the House Judiciary committee.

[sargon]

Any Freepers in South Florida who are so inclined, please send me a PM. It's time for us to become acquainted with each other and begin to plan for mutual support.

We must all hang together, or we shall certainly all hang separately. We need to set aside petty divisions and organize by neighborhoods, cities, counties, and states.

IMHO, it's time to start planning for lawful resistance. I'm not talking about violence, I'm just talking about having each other's backs, and rendering assistance when the persecution begins in earnest, which it is certain to do before too long as more and more of us say "enough is enough."

[House Atreides]

“....They are not only picking up every call on their servers, but they are storing every conversation as “data”....”
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And it would also be just as easy for them to pick up and record every single ‘ping’ your cell phone makes and the specific cell tower(s) it pinged off. Recording for later, or real time, reading of the exact location(s) of your uniquely identifiable cell phone at any time or over any requested period of time.

And it must comfort us all that Obamba’s operatives are the ones hiring, or approving the hiring, of each new analyst or tech.

[Nita Nupress]

They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line.

.....or they'll all die a slow and painfully agonizing death.

Right. I got it. Should we be putting that in ALL CAPS or BOLD to make sure they see it?

[Nita Nupress]

Tapped Enough Already?

Just great. Now i'm affiliated with the TT-Party.

[laplata]

They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line.

[House Atreides]

“....reading of the exact location(s) of your uniquely identifiable cell phone at any time or over any requested period of time.....”
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And, using appropriate query algorithms, they could also identify OTHER cell phones that may be “travelling” (co-located) with your cell phone over certain time period(s). As Rush Limbaugh is fond of saying, "Don't doubt me!"

[Nita Nupress]

“They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line.”

You forgot the caps and bold. If you do that, you won’t have to cut and paste anymore to make sure they see it and internalize it and piss all over themselves. In this case, quality is better than quantity.

Go ahead. One more time. I’ll be back later to make sure you complied.

[GOPJ]

I’m sure the NSA is careful - it’s not like they would allow 29 year old high school drop outs to listen in on the Presidents conversations or the Supreme Courts calls... Oh wait - ummm never
mind.

[laplata]

Have a good weekend.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

This government needs to be reined in.

We're about a century past the time for reigning in.

[Slings and Arrows]

William Binney, a former NSA technical director who helped to modernize the agency's worldwide eavesdropping network, told the Daily Caller this week that the NSA records the phone calls of 500,000 to 1 million people who are on its so-called target list, and perhaps even more. "They look through these phone numbers and they target those and that's what they record," Binney said.

I wonder how many FReepers are on that target list? (Yeah, my gut says "all of us.")

[familyop]

Well, there goes the “metadata” lie.

[Henry Hnyellar]

I don’t know what the NSA witnesses said and neither do you. So I can hardly make a judgement on what he heard or what he reports. And neither can you.

I also reject your premise that being against NSA now will hurt Nadler’s interests. Do you think he’s not going to get re-elected for taking his current position? His district hasn’t elected a Republican since the 1920s. Chuck Schumer was the rep in the past. The district went for Obama to the tune of 91% in 2008. This guy is safe no matter what he does.

[Henry Hnyellar]

He said nothing of the sort. He said Snowden likely had more info he could release that would be damaging to national security. I don’t think he ever used the word scandal.

He maintained his support of the NSA programs.

[Iscool]

McConnell said during a separate congressional appearance around the same time that he believed the president had the constitutional authority, no matter what the law actually says, to order domestic spying without warrants.

They are above the Constitution...And both houses of Congress are in on it along with the Judiciary...

The news has been out there for years...Half the people don't care and the other half (or far less) even on FR have been in denial for a long, long time...

McCain is in on it...Romney is in on it...And yet we have FReepers who supported both of those traitors in the primaries...

The intent of this great site is to help restore our Nation back to a Constitutional Republic and yet it is loaded with people who love NAFTA, the WTO, the New World Order and on and on...

[Secret Agent Man]

i think you are stating it very, very mildly.

[laplata]

Are we moving into a Police State? I’d like your answer to that. Thanks in advance.

[butterdezillion]

Safe from Obama’s thugs? You think he wants the public rectal exam Obama’s thugs could give him? If you don’t understand the methods being employed to keep people quiet, then the significance of all these scandals has gone right over your head. It’s one great big extortion ring. RICO on the biggest steroids you’ve never even heard of.

Let’s do this. You list for me 10 things that Obama’s regime could never do and exactly who would stop them from doing it and how. Once you’ve done that we can talk about how willing a Congressman would be to make up stories against Obama just for the heck of it. Are you game?

[Bobalu]

I had no doubt that this was indeed the procedure for accessing the phone call audio data.

The justification for storing this was always the claim that it would take a court order to access any of it. They got around that with a court order allowing access to ALL OF IT.

One thing is CERTAIN... there has to be a type of sport played by analysts where they listen to the phone calls of CELEBRITIES and joke about this among themselves. This is the story that will cause this all to explode in the media.

[Nita Nupress]

No, we’re not “moving into a Police State” and anyone who believes that statement either hasn’t been paying attention or he’s part of the problem.

We’ve BEEN living in a Police State for awhile now; recent events prove this. And it’s do-or-die time, symbolically speaking, for every American and every FReeper who does not want to live under tyranny for the rest of his natural-born life. People are going to have to decide: What good does it do to sit and bitch online, other than relieve my frustration? Am i going to continue being negative and either willingly or unwillingly cause my pessimism to spread? Because that’s a psyops strategy that’s very effective, and you can be dang sure they’re all over the Net doing just that. Call it what you will — brainwashing, Revelation of the Method, mind conditioning, emotional contagion, or whatever. What we are seeing, if people would just pay attention here at FR, is a disciplined effort to program people to just accept the inevitable. Go back up to where you posted Alinsky’s Rules and read #10 and #11, especially #11 about “pushing the negative.”

I’ll have NO part of it, and neither should ANY genuine Conservative who has a brain. It’s time to stop helping them lead us to our own demise! THINK, people!

< /rant >