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Scouts Sending up the White Flag
Lifesite news ^ | 6-8-13 | Anthony Esolen

Posted on 06/09/2013 4:56:56 AM PDT by lastmomstanding

Do not suppose that your enemies will be placated by your surrender. You will be pressured to accept openly homosexual scoutmasters, then “transgender” girls who say they are boys or the Prince of Wales or male aliens from Alpha Centauri 3, then girls generally for all your programs, as they’ve done in Canada, only to see their membership go the way of the Church of Canada, since no one will stand up for someone who stands for nothing. 


You have betrayed your friends to assuage your enemies. May they treat you more handsomely than you have treated us.

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KEYWORDS: betrayal; boyscouts; bsa; deceit; homosexualagenda; scouts
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To: JCG

I oppose rampant sexualization of all children’s organizations

and entertainment (checked out ABC Family’s new show “The Fosters” with 2 women caressing each other in bed?)

and schools public AND private

I choose to stay and take a stand, lead a morally straight troop as long as I can with the support of like minded parents, and not pack my tent and surrender all the Scouts have built and stand for, to a few radicals and an out of touch paid leadership of agenda driven professional fundraising pandering idiots

We are the parents and we are volunteers who lead the troops, the paid staff needs us, we don’t need them
Mr Feeley starts a troop with his husband, my kid not in that troop. Harry Horndog or Sally Slut joins the troop and hits on another kid and they are out for misbehavior

Look around... fewer and fewer places to run and hide
You think your kids’ sports clubs, school clubs, and church youth ministries are pure? Look harder, you face the same risks and you have to make the same choices

someone’s got to take a stand soon or you will all run out of places.


61 posted on 06/09/2013 8:01:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf
they can start their own troop instead

But they can't discriminate against gay scouts.

62 posted on 06/09/2013 8:02:24 AM PDT by grania
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To: Sacajaweau

>>This is not the same world as when the Boy Scouts started.

My Troop was chartered at a Baptist church and was run by fathers who were WWII and Korean war veterans.

When those Dad’s taught their sons to camp and work together in January when the temps were sub-zero, it was to build the character required to survive in those conditions — not so their sons and their country could be Sodomized by a bunch of Kolobian Rainbow Quisling Faggots.


63 posted on 06/09/2013 8:02:36 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: grania

there are ways to choose your troop

Some troops limit themselves to who fits in the leader’s car for traveling

Age 14+ there are Venture Scouts, Sea Scouts, etc

or Lone Scouts

BSA might be for every boy but that doesn’t mean every troop is for every boy


64 posted on 06/09/2013 8:09:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf
I choose to stay and take a stand, lead a morally straight troop as long as I can with the support of like minded parents, and not pack my tent and surrender all the Scouts have built and stand for, to a few radicals and an out of touch paid leadership of agenda driven professional fundraising pandering idiots

You're not taking a stand if you stay. You're just telling the radicals and agenda driven professional fundraising pandering idiots that what they did is ok.

(These are the thoughts of a one-time Boy Scout and the father of two Eagle Scouts.)

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65 posted on 06/09/2013 8:10:50 AM PDT by JCG
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To: silverleaf

I agree with you 100%.

That is why, as a former scout myself, I say either the Boy Scouts reverses this bone-headed screwup, immediately.

Or an organization is found to replace the Boy Scouts.

It is that simple.


66 posted on 06/09/2013 8:12:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: silverleaf

>>BSA might be for every boy but that doesn’t mean every troop is for every boy

Every troop that continues to adorn itself with the BSA’s paraphernalia is advertising an endorsement of the organization and its new progressivism.

Ever play capture the flag? It is the BSA’s organizational symbolism that has been hijacked for a perverse cause.


67 posted on 06/09/2013 8:17:23 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: djf; bert; bmwcyle; JCG; silverleaf; lastmomstanding; EternalVigilance; All
This is my letter to the BSA. They have lost my support, and I have been a life-long supporter, donor, and one who has served in numerous scouting positions (including Scoutmaster) since myself having been a scout.

MY LETTER TO THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA

THE SCOUT OATH

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

I would recommend everyone look at, and consider becoming a part of the following:

ON MY HONOR.NET - BSA Leaders, Scoutmasters, Eagle Scouts, and supporters seeking to form an alternative to the Boy Scouts of America due to their recent decision

68 posted on 06/09/2013 8:28:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: silverleaf
But why pick and choose how to get around the policy? What kind of message is that sending their sons...it's okay to get by on a technicality and a finagle and ignore things that are wrong and you disagree with?

It would make more sense for some families just to get together and provide those scouting opportunies for their sons, and also use that as a great bonding opportunity between children, parents, and other loved ones. JMHO

69 posted on 06/09/2013 8:40:22 AM PDT by grania
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To: Jeff Head
"The point: When you are part of a Species traditional institution, like Homos Apiens a Christian church or denomination, allowing reproductive resources to be stolen by Transhumanis/Postgenderist  Übermensch competors it to drift away from historic traditions is fatal."
http://www.onmyhonor.net/2013/06/07/boy-scouts-have-lost-their-way/#more-3588
 
 
There Neal --  Fixed it for ya.

70 posted on 06/09/2013 8:43:58 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: silverleaf

Every family needs to make its own choice. Ours was to leave scouting.
Myself - Scoutmaster
Wife - Committee member
2 sons - Life and Star

I will not be associated with an organization that promotes homosexuality as normal.

This is not the last change. Adult homosexuals will be next. There will be changes to merit badges, most specifically the Family Life badge, which is Eagle required and centered around the old definition of the nuclear family. The homosexual activists will not let that stand. They will demand it change to include the ‘new normal’ of homosexuality and families. BSA will be teaching every Eagle that homosexuality is normal.

Baden Powell is weeping.


71 posted on 06/09/2013 9:31:04 AM PDT by lost in the snow (One PO'ed Scout Master and Proud of the HIGH moral ground)
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To: lost in the snow

For those who don’t believe more changes are coming see below. How long until this becomes officially sanctioned by the BSA>>>>>>

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewsninja2012.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2Fa41meritrequirements.pdf&ei=dq60UcSsHKO-yQHxl4DIAQ&usg=AFQjCNFsyDXUnjRyTm_N_AkZYH-JiQe7VA&sig2=I3ZXm3byOEp2-YK-086EHA&bvm=bv.47534661,d.aWc

Scouting for All
Inclusive Rainbow Merit Badge Requirements
Please read disclaimer at bottom before beginning this merit badge.
After you complete these merit badge requirements, send to:
Scouting for All
PO Box 600841
San Diego, CA 92120-0841
National Office Phone
Tel: 619-229-1612
Email: info@scoutingforall.org
Remember to send a copy of the pre and post value clarification exercises you completed.
Scouting for All will send you our Inclusive Rainbow Merit Badge, which you can wear with
pride. Thanks for participating!
Steven Cozza, Cofounder
Howard Menzer, President
Scouting for All
_____ 1. Complete the Values Clarification Exercise before you complete the rest of this merit
badge. Your merit badge counselor, den leader, scout leader, or parent should administer the
Scouting for All values clarification excercise.
_____ 2. Look up the words inclusiveness and diversity in the dictionary. Write a paragraph
on how they relate to the Scout Law points of helpful, friendly, courteous and kind.
_____ 3. Look up the dictionary definitions for prejudice, stereotype, and discrimination.
Write a paragraph on how these concepts relate to inclusiveness and diversity.
_____ 4. Do TWO of the following and follow up with a question and answer session:
A. Invite a speaker from PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) to speak at
your troop or den meeting. Ask them to speak about what it means to be gay
(homosexual). Ask them to explain the following:
1. What a hate crime is.
2. How prejudice and discrimination affect gay people individually and the
community as a whole.
3. Ask them if gays have family values and if they can be parents.
4. Ask them how they feel about gay people not being allowed in the Boy Scouts of
America.
B. Invite a group of speakers from an atheist group such as American Atheists. You can
look these up on the Internet or in your phone book. Ask them the following:
1. What it means to be an atheist in American society.
2. If they have the same rights as believers.
3. If they feel included or excluded in American society.
4. How they feel about not being allowed in the Boy Scouts of America.
C. With your parents permission, attend a PFLAG or GSA (Gay / Straight Alliance), an
American Atheist meeting, or a similar type of meeting. You can find a local chapter on
the Internet or in your phone book.
____ 5. Write a short essay on what you learned from the speaker or speakers and/or attending
one of the meetings.
____ 6. Explain to your scout leader, den leader, or parent why you believe your troop or den
should or should not be open to diversity.
____ 7. Ask your scout leader, den leader, or parent to give you the values clarification excercise
again.
____ 8. With your scout leader, den leader, merit badge counselor, or parent, compare the
answers of the firs values clarification exercise you completed with the second one you
competed. Discuss if your values or beliefs changed or did not change and why.
Disclaimer:
The Scouting for All Inclusive Rainbow Merit Badge is not sanctioned by the Boy Scouts of America.
You may be prohibited from wearing it on your uniform. Merely completing the requirements may cause
problems with scout leaders or parents who are not open minded, so be aware of what you are doing. You
may be prohibited from wearing the badge on your uniform. If you choose to wear it as a symbol of the
BSA requirement to respect and defend the rights of all people, you risk expulsion from the Boy Scouts of
America. Scouting for All suggests that you wear the merit badge, and if you receive a warning from
your local Scout Council, then just take it off your shirt, but you should be aware of the risk. There are
troops and dens in America and Internationally that are wearing the Scouting for All Inclusive Rainbow
Merit Badge.


72 posted on 06/09/2013 9:38:06 AM PDT by lost in the snow (One PO'ed Scout Master and Proud of the HIGH moral ground)
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To: bmwcyle

Let the BSA die. It is over.

Yup.

It will be like the YMCA, another Christian organization that becomes synonymous with homosexual hangouts.

Maybe “The Village People” will write a song about it too.

73 posted on 06/09/2013 10:20:37 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: lost in the snow
I will not be associated with an organization that promotes homosexuality as normal.
ah, like the US military
and the government of the USA
professional sports
millions of the mainstream protestant churches
Almost every college and university in the US

74 posted on 06/09/2013 10:59:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: lost in the snow
Every family needs to make its own choice. Ours was to leave scouting.
Myself - Scoutmaster
Wife - Committee member
2 sons - Life and Star

As much as I applaud your choice I'd wait until my sons had achieved Eagle rank if they desire to get it. There is always hope that the BSA will see the error of its way and return to the light. That 18th birthday only comes once and after that it's too late.

(These are the thoughts of a one-time Boy Scout and the father of two Eagle Scouts.)

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Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it.
www.AnySoldier.com
(An entirely free service) #0000FF

75 posted on 06/09/2013 11:12:01 AM PDT by JCG
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To: silverleaf

You forgot the Hollywood filth and the RATagandist networks. And no, I want nothing to do with the entire list.

Don’t know what to say about the military’s plight. Wait till the athiest packers and baby-killers become generals and start ordering gunfire on the citizenry.


76 posted on 06/09/2013 11:20:19 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: silverleaf

Yes that would be correct. I am not directly associated with any of those organizations. The church our family attends does not endorse homosexuality, and I avoid business that are actively promoting it.

If you want to be associated with it that is your choice, others choose differently.

Just because society and other groups endorse a behavior a find deplorable, I WILL NOT.


77 posted on 06/09/2013 11:22:35 AM PDT by lost in the snow (One PO'ed Scout Master and Proud of the HIGH moral ground)
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To: silverleaf
BSA has always admitted homosexual boys who kept it a secret

Then if this IS TRUE...WHY would any conservative, parent with integrity ALLOW their child to be a part of that organization, especially VOLUNTARILY !!!!

I say the church needs to step up to the plate! ORGANIZE A NEW SCOUT GROUP... There is currently AMERICAN GIRL CLUBS that are great for the girls!!

78 posted on 06/09/2013 11:49:38 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: bert

There are a certain number of parents purposely raising their children to be confused about their sexuality. More than a couple stories have surfaced recently where 5 or 7 year old boys—dressed like, and wanted to be identified as little girls...with their parents aquiessence (and encouragement).

You can bet that “progressive” types will now purposely put their purposely sexually confused kids into the BSA, just to test the water....AND the push will be all the more relentless for “justice” for scoutmasters who love sodomy...

BSA will no longer be percieved as a safe place for boys—and parents and churches simply won’t go along with it—and the volunteers which make the organization possible will dry up. Regardless of the real numbers of “gay” 13 year olds...this IS a big deal, as in this the vow to be “morally straight” has been expunged.


79 posted on 06/09/2013 12:47:47 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: bert
Those who think about the BSA as you do are a minority of a minority of a minority.

Truth is not the result of a popularity contest. IF there is a homosexual sex embracing mob -so what?

Just because some (even if it is a majority) that seek orientation justice, the supposed noble ends sought by the promoters of homosexual sex, are willing to support an evil means (sacrificing the innocence of other peoples children) to achieve this utopia does not mean all have to drink the koolaid like you do.

If this promotion of homosexual sex normalcy is allowed to continue in the BSA THEN the BSA is done -stick a fork in it.

80 posted on 06/09/2013 3:38:27 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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