Posted on 06/07/2013 3:33:15 PM PDT by RummyChick
In the midst of revelations that the government has conducted extensive top-secret surveillance operations to collect domestic phone records and internet communications, the Justice Department was due to file a court motion Friday in its effort to keep secret an 86-page court opinion that determined that the government had violated the spirit of federal surveillance laws and engaged in unconstitutional spying.
(Excerpt) Read more at motherjones.com ...
So much for "transparency," and both Holder and Hussein are up to their necks in it.
What's this about a "secret" court Opinion?
Since when is that even Constitutional?
I was against much of the Patriot Act. I hate giving more power to the government no matter who's in office at the time.
The left talks about hypocrisy, but I remember them screaming bloody murder when the Bush Administration sought to intercept international calls specifically involving a known or suspected terrorist. (International calls have been fair game for all ears since international calls were invented.)
Now, those same humps think its great that Obama's spying on and auditing the Tea Party. They are small minds that embrace illusory temporary victories like they are game changers. But they'll sob about injustice when the pointy stick pokes them.
I might have no trouble with that if we, the People, can similarly find out what THEY ARE SAYING, EMAILING AND TEXTING. NO EXCEPTIONS AND NO Bu******t 'national security' claims.
the left is generally better than the right on the rights of the accused, and the 4th & 5th Amendment. The right is better on 1st & 2nd & 10th Amendments, among others. I respect people who can be principled no matter who is in office. It is a rare occurrence though.
Point well made!
Did you read some of the comments for the article on Mother Jones? Some of the libs are beginning to use simple logic and conclude that perhaps their Messiah Obama is not acting in a righteous manner. It’s gonna take time but I anticipate many registered Democrats are going to throw in the towel and stop supporting their Party. They will say we can support progressivism but we can’t endorse a totalitarian regime and they might even realize that Hillary is worse than Hussein Obama. Have you noticed Hillary’s popularity ratings are beginning to dip?
Wonder if partial agenda of the large Obama-phone program was to help bring more people into this stealth monitoring
I not sure of all those in history to whom this should be attributed but..."when your enemy is destroying himself, don't interfere."
The left is FURIOUS with O.
Not really. While they don’t like it, they are blaming Bush for it. Bush was behind the creation of the Patriot Act and Prism. They are still pretty much giving He-Who-Must-Never-Be-Named a pass.
Oregon ping...
This is explosive stuff IMO.
This is a broad consensus. When even the left agrees with you that their leftist President has abused his power, that’s saying something.
Here...enabling it:
Rank-and-file reject Patriot Act
GOP struggles for PATRIOT Act votes
House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) offered a stern warning to his fellow lawmakers in a closed conference meeting Wednesday at the Capitol Hill Club: Don’t you dare vote no unless you attend Mueller’s briefing and ask your questions.
Bachmann defends vote for Patriot Act after fielding complaints about government over-reach
Well, it's not so secret anymore:
United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court
It was originally created to fight the KGB, but it's power and responsibilities were greatly "enhanced" (to use a favorite government euphemism) by the Patriot Act.
And when the Patriot Act was first created, and then renewed in May 2011 (by House Republicans), we were all promised that it would serve as a check against the kind of abuses that have been revealed this past week.
What a joke!
Yeah, I generally can’t stand both Mother Jones and David Corn, but in this case, they are absolutely right!
Nope. Way before that.
The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) is a U.S. federal court authorized under 50 U.S.C. S: 1803, Pub.L. 95-511, 92 Stat. 1788, enacted October 25, 1978. It was established by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA).
I stand corrected.
Ummmm. The Patriot Act made use of the already existing FISA Court.
The FISA Court has been around since the post-Nixon era.
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