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EPA-mandated Device Forces Ambulance to Shut Down on way to Hospital; man dead.
Daily Caller ^ | 05/31/2013 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 05/31/2013 12:48:44 PM PDT by logi_cal869

A vehicle emissions reduction device, which is mandated by the Environmental Protection Agency, forced an ambulance to shut down while carrying a suspect who was shot by Washington, D.C., police.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diesel; epa; epaambulance; epaoutofcontrol; government; regulations
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Thinking out loud: Coming soon to gasoline-powered vehicles? Without regard to the deceased being a 'suspect', what if it was a heart attack victim (oh, my...what if it were a 'minority' heart-attack victim?)??? (sarc ON)
1 posted on 05/31/2013 12:48:44 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

More blood on their hands.


2 posted on 05/31/2013 12:49:39 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: logi_cal869

They need these devices on ALL the ambulances in DC.

Specifically any that serve the Congress.


3 posted on 05/31/2013 12:50:34 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Red Badger

Ping.


4 posted on 05/31/2013 12:51:02 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: logi_cal869

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea_nitrate

A couple of decades ago I asked a druggist why the 25% urea cream was kept behind the counter. He said it was because it could be used in explosives. Now, to run a diesel car, other than a VW TDI, you must buy a gallon of pure urea per 15,000 miles. If you can use it to make an explosive, what will happen to its availability when somebody uses it in a bomb? I’m thinking it will go away. By EPA mandate any car requiring it will only go 500 miles after that and then shut down. I think, once somebody builds it into a bomb, that every diesel sold in America will be useless within 500 miles. (Except my TDI.)


5 posted on 05/31/2013 12:55:09 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: logi_cal869

Massive lawsuit against vehicle mfgr in 3....2.....1.....


6 posted on 05/31/2013 12:55:12 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: logi_cal869

Liberalism demands the individual sacrifice himself for the collectivity. Mission accomplished.


7 posted on 05/31/2013 12:55:24 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: logi_cal869
Let me get this right. The US government is placing devices on emergency vehicles that automatically shut them down under certain circumstances. There is no provision for a manual override.

What could possibly go wrong?

The federal bureaucracy, not content with harassing citizens is now simply killing them. I think I remember this movie from the late 18th century. It did not end well for some.

8 posted on 05/31/2013 12:56:11 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: logi_cal869

My sister owns a school bus, she is a contractor, That has this same device on it. It broke down like this 3 times last year. It had a Caterpillar engine in it. Caterpilar no longer supplies that engine for Buses because it caused so many problems. It was a great engine that the EPA screwed up when they added this regen BS to it.


9 posted on 05/31/2013 12:56:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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So, you might say that the Gubbermint killed this guy twice.


10 posted on 05/31/2013 1:00:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: logi_cal869

This happened to a suspect shot by police. Wonder what the reaction if it happened to a victim or heart attack?


11 posted on 05/31/2013 1:03:16 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: logi_cal869

I read on another thread that the suspect was in cardiac arrest when the engine failed. If so, the failure almost certainly did not make a difference - when I trained as an EMT, they told me that the odds of restarting a heart stopped by trauma were about a thousand to one against. (This fact in no way mitigates the dangerous insanity of the EPA’s policy.)


12 posted on 05/31/2013 1:04:06 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Rusty0604
This happened to a suspect shot by police.

I doubt that will hold the tort lawyers back any...

13 posted on 05/31/2013 1:04:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

There is no way that this outcome couldn’t have been foreseen. They just didn’t care.


14 posted on 05/31/2013 1:04:22 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Gen.Blather

Some use urea, and some use the DPF. The urea tank needs to be refilled periodically and the DPF needs to be cleaned periodically, usually by burning off the contaminants.

We’ve seen the DPF burn off set the vehicle on fire before, I think.

On the new Grand Cherokee diesel, the 8.5 gallon urea tank has to be refilled every 10K miles.


15 posted on 05/31/2013 1:04:53 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: nascarnation

Your’e right the suspect will probably get more sympathy than a victim or heart attack.


16 posted on 05/31/2013 1:05:58 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Looking at this from a different perspective, it was poor maintenance practice on the part of the ambulance company.
Similar to running out of fuel.


17 posted on 05/31/2013 1:06:04 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Let me get this right. The US government is placing devices on emergency vehicles that automatically shut them down under certain circumstances.

Not only that, the US feral government has placed dynamite bombs in the dashboards of all vehicles that are totally unnecessary if you wear seat-belts.

18 posted on 05/31/2013 1:07:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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“On the new Grand Cherokee diesel, the 8.5 gallon urea tank has to be refilled every 10K miles.”

OMG! It’s $19/gallon!


19 posted on 05/31/2013 1:07:34 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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