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Mayor Bloomberg Thinks Medical Marijuana Is a ‘Hoax’
New York Magazine ^ | 5/31/2013 | Joe Coscarelli

Posted on 05/31/2013 11:50:26 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Old Man Bloomberg ignored the opinions of medical professionals and various other data today on his weekly radio address to deem any non-recreational use of the nation's favorite herb fake. "Yeah, right, medical, come on," he said. "There's no medical. This is one of the great hoaxes of all time." While the mayor famously said, "You bet I did. And I enjoyed it," when asked if he'd ever smoked weed, he insisted, "I don't have any personal experience in terms of today," before reverting to his recycled talking points like, "marijuana is much stronger today than it was 20 or 30 years ago" and "If [drug dealers] can't sell marijuana, they'll sell something else."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: closetheborder; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; michaelbloomberg; mikebloomberg; newyork; yesofcourseitis
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To: nickcarraway

“Do you really want the government to become a drug dealer?”

Become? They already are. I pay more to various governments for my cigarettes than I do to the tobacco companies.


21 posted on 05/31/2013 1:28:00 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ken5050
The “stopped clock” tells the correct time twice a day...

Exactly. My first thought was about the blind sow finding an acorn.

22 posted on 05/31/2013 1:28:32 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: nickcarraway
people with actual medical degrees know better

What is available instead is not so great for terminal patients, with numerous side effects that are very unpleasant. Who cares if a dying person cannot drive? They're not going to drive anyway.

23 posted on 05/31/2013 1:33:03 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: sargon

I’ll take “none of the above”, thank you. I don’t need left-wing authoritarians telling me how big my soda can be, and I don’t need right-wing authoritarians telling me which plant I can possess or smoke.

...a most salient post indeed, right on the money...


24 posted on 05/31/2013 1:37:09 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: MarMema

Like all drugs there are warnings about side effects. No psych text (so far) that I have studied recommends the use of marijuana because the shrinks know what they would have to say in speed reading at the end of the commercial.


25 posted on 05/31/2013 2:21:25 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: nickcarraway

The Mayor is never correct and can leave for hell now.


26 posted on 05/31/2013 2:22:42 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m sure he does believe in taxing it at say 35% though.


27 posted on 05/31/2013 2:31:32 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: nickcarraway

From what I have observed, first hand, in Colorado, Medical Marijuana is most definitely a hoax.


28 posted on 05/31/2013 2:36:35 PM PDT by cookcounty (Blah-Blah-Barak, Blah-Blah-Barak, you got me rockin and a reelin...)
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To: muir_redwoods; nickcarraway
live through what I’ve lived through

Amen, brother. Weed saved my life (quite literally) during chemo and radiation treatments for colon cancer. It allowed me to drink water without puking and even eat a little here and there.

I tried every other nausea med and even the synthetic Marinol, and nothing worked like a few puffs of marijuana.

I would have died from dehydration way before the cancer killed me. Before I tried the weed, they put me in the hospital so I could get fluids 24/7. I got infections just from being there, and I knew I had to get out of there. When I talked my doc into letting me go home, I thought it was the end. Then someone brought over some weed and everything changed.

I don't wish it on anyone because it is a living hell, but if you or anyone you know is going through cancer treatments, get some weed and a pipe any way you can. The relief is nearly instant.

It is true that there are people who just want to use it for fun, but if you ever find yourself about to die a miserable death because you are puking dozens of times a day, you will realize there is a place for it.

4 years cancer free, btw.

29 posted on 05/31/2013 2:55:02 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911
Good for you. My conservative Christian doctor of 25 years says there is no drug better than smoking pot to overcome lack of desire to eat due to chemotherapy. People that have not been through chemotherapy simply do not understand what it is like to be repulsed by the food and water necessary to stay alive. As you clearly indicate, people die because it is simply easier not to eat or drink fluids.

He also feels that California set back the medical community by allowing for sham operations like the ones in Venice Beach to sell to anyone that walks in and complains of any type of pain. He said no one has ever died from smoking pot, but people have died from taking Marinol (synthetic THC).

30 posted on 05/31/2013 3:28:12 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Semper911

Bless you Semper911!! My Mom finds relief from her chronic pain by ingesting it, occasionally (especially when she can’t get any more pain killers, for fear of her becoming addicted, at 78, WHO CARES?). Whatever I can do to help her, I will. Screw the feds. IT DOES WORK, all the naysayers can go suck an egg.


31 posted on 05/31/2013 3:54:37 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Amendment10

Do you agree that states should make decisions regarding intrastate marijuana regulation, per the Tenth Amendment?


32 posted on 05/31/2013 4:04:01 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: nickcarraway

Marinol did nothing. A few puffs on a pipe and she felt hungry in about twenty minutes. She’d eat pretty well, fall asleep and sleep well. It wasn’t recreational but it was a break from a regemin of nausea.


33 posted on 05/31/2013 4:41:21 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Ken H
Do you agree that states should make decisions regarding intrastate marijuana regulation, per the Tenth Amendment?

Yes, but with a major reservation.

We currently have Democratic-controlled welfare states who live off of the wealth of other states via constitutionally indefensible federal welfare. It is not fair for such states to encourage welfare recipient citizens to smoke pot all day and vote for Democrats while having other states pay for their food and shelter via such welfare.

So the states can grow anything they want to under their 10th Amendment protections after we lose federal welfare.

34 posted on 05/31/2013 4:42:51 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Gabrial
That Marinol is some crazy sh!t. I had big hopes that it would help me, but it made me more wasted than I have ever been in my life. I mean I have never felt so high from any drug. And it did nothing for the nausea. There is something in the smoke that is not in the pill (actually it is a gell ball type thing.)

The actual marijuana smoke gave an almost instant wave of relief to my stomach/intestines that I will never forget. I didn't like the high feeling it also gives, but all drugs have side effects, and getting high was a small price to pay for being able to stop puking up yellow goo every 20 minutes around the clock.

I don't worry about the whole medical marijuana issue, because I know it will always be around and I will always be able to get it if I need it. I have cop friends who say not to worry about it because they don't bust cancer patients, and no DA would ever try to prosecute one. All my doctors knew I was using it and said it helped their patients who tried it.

You wouldn't believe how many different meds I took that were supposed to help with nausea. Some were so expensive they had to call my insurance to get special permission for them to pay for it. And not one of them did a damn thing. So for the medical marijuana debate, follow the money and you'll see why the cancer clinics aren't allowed to give it to their patients.

35 posted on 05/31/2013 4:53:42 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Mama Shawna
Whatever I can do to help her, I will.

God bless you for helping her, and so glad she has the good sense to use it if it helps her. Many seniors wouldn't dream of smoking a bowl because that is "doing drugs", but have fully-stocked arsenals of narcotics they take without a second thought.

You are right that it does work. Too bad the stoners have ruined it for the people who could really benefit from it.

Seems like they could make an inhaler type thing with tincture in it (like e-cigs) and make them available by prescription. What a lifesaver that would be for so many people. But if I need it again I'll just buy it from the creepy guy down the street (or the hairdresser, or the landscaping dudes, or whomever), and problem solved. No prescription needed.

36 posted on 05/31/2013 5:17:49 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Amendment10
Yes, but with a major reservation.

IOW, "no".

May I suggest a change in screen name to an amendment that you will support without "major reservations"?

37 posted on 05/31/2013 5:44:15 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Semper911
I agree. Marinol is to pot as Everclear is to a fine red wine. Many doctors will tell you that one or two glasses of red wine is good for your health, but Everclear is basically a distilled pure chemical with none of the beneficial chemicals found in red wine. Just as Everclear will waste you quickly, so will a drug like Marinol.

As far as I know, Marinol does little to help with nausea, but 10 to 15 MG a day significantly helps with appetite. That is if the patient can cope with the psychological effects of the drug, which can be very debilitating.

38 posted on 05/31/2013 6:58:46 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Semper911
It is truly a shame that people with these conditions will use morphine and codeine based drugs at the instruction of doctors when these drugs have major addiction issues as well as suppressing appetite and causing constipation. IMHO
39 posted on 05/31/2013 7:08:33 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Semper911

Throw it in a Cuisinart with butter and garlic, saute it up, let it cool, put it into tubs with lids and keep it in the fridge, for nausea, glaucoma or other medical conditions that can benefit. Eat the herb butter on a baked potato, smeared onto hot toast, etc.

A good friend’s father had an intestinal cancer, the nausea from treatment and wasting from the diease itself nearly killed him. That gave him a measure of comfort, quelled the nausea, halted the wasting. He was very opposed at first but the relief was undeniable so he ran with it. Going this route is a lot less surreptitious and druggie-feeling than smoking. Sort of similar to oregano, so anything that uses oregano or works with it.


40 posted on 05/31/2013 7:24:29 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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