“Circle May 31st on the calendar just to be on the safe side…”
Posted on 05/23/2013 8:50:54 AM PDT by Old Sarge
Very chilling and deserves to be reposted. I think there should be a motivation among all people to plan for disaster and be as self-sufficient as possible. The government cannot possibly respond to every emergency fast enough to provide everyone with basics immediately- even in the best possible response. To call the idea of not totally depending on government to save you from everything a possible mental illness is lunacy itself.
I grew up in snow country and at times we were snowed in, one winter for most of a month we could not get to town. I remember the people that didn't prepare were considered crazy.
No hoarding is not preparedness. Be real
Hoarding is when a person has an obsession/compulsive disorder and is unable to throw items out beyond their reasonable use.
Amen. Hoarding is a real psychiatric issue.
The DSM IV to V topic has other issues which ARE important.
Let’s not get distracted and paranoid on the hoarding story.
Psychiatry is a cult of fake science.
Many psychiatrists and practitioners of such therapy, particularly those not anchored to hard medical science - I myself find to be strange and mentally unbalanced.
Whether preparedness is hoarding depends on who is doing the defining. I have had more than one liberal make fun of people that stock up on things and they do see them as hoarders.
My liberal neighbor said people who have years worth of food are no different that those that hoard hundreds of cats or dogs. When I pointed out to her that it is smart to at least store food for storms and things like that- her idea of preparing for things like that is having enough on hand for one week, anything over that is just crazy. My neighbor thinks anyone that stocks up on firearms and ammo is absolutely certifiable and she is “terrified” of people like that.
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He already put the word out to the faithful on Tuesday that the OK tornadoes was done by the HAARP antennas...
Oh, but didn't you get the memo? See post #68...
[[YOU ARE CRAZY: New Psychiatric Guidelines Target Hoarding...and a Host of Other “Illnesses”]]
It’s much deeper- Docs are ORDERED to give anti-depressents for everythign from true full blown depression right down to toenail fungus (”Gee can’t fgureo ut why your nail won’t clear up- must be due to low levels of seratonine- Here, let’s try this anti-depressent and see if calming your mind helps clear it up”) so that peopel applying for gun permits will NOT be allowed, and htose who have guns and are on anti-depressents, anti-anxiety and anti-psycxhotic drugs will have their guns confiscated WITHOUT due process of any previous record of violence or illegal activity
[[And if you refuse your “treatment”, you will be punished.]]
Precisely- You will immediately be labelled as a ‘hostile patient’ for refusign treatment- and it’s goign to get to hte point where doc offices do not ASK you to coem see them anymore, they will DEMAND that you see them or else!
Docs have been pushing anti-depressents for many many years- and I swear it was all in preperation for this day- so that under obummercare you will be deemed unfit to own a gun and will be udner forced treatment of the govenrment
Obsession with pet, pets, or feral domestic animals?
Compulsive talking on the cell / cordless phone in public?
Self-imposed Isolation spent playing computer games?
On-line fantasy sex addiction?
Certainty that Obama is a Messiah or benevolent leader?
Others?
The IRS are “experts” in Tax law. Look how they wield power. When the IRS and other government agencies gain control of our health care system by driving the competition out of the market place, do you think they will be experts that we can trust to use that power ethically?
The long post I made was about the medical community making a diagnosis. The federal government (Hussein) is entirely different. There is a danger, when our medical records are available to federal healthcare officials, for some committee of theirs to look at medicines being taken, and put that person in a “can't have a gun” category. They do it to veterans now. Senator Cornyn offered an amendment to the senate gun bill to take that power away from the Veterans Administration, but it was voted down.
If the VA “committee” restricts certain Vets from getting a gun, the only recourse is for the Vet to go to court and pay a lawyer to try to get his rights back. In the regular population, it works the other way. Before a person can be deemed not able to run his/her affairs due to a mental problem, the court has to prove the person isn't capable of running his/her affairs and the court has to pay the person's lawyer because it is the court trying to take away the person's rights.
this is a constant assault on everyone to unnecessarily and massively increase job protection level funding and expansion for the “mental health care” industry
using medical terminology to describe any “bad behavior” as “a medical condition” and not what it often is - someone has not learned how to behave socially because they have not had sufficient impediments to that behavior put in front of them by parents and society
as for “hoarding” - it’s another form of behavior an addictive personality latches onto, instead of drugs or alcohol or sex; for ALL addiction is NOT caused by the observable symptomatic expression - a drug, alcohol, sex, hoarding - it is an acquired personality sydrome in which the ability to quit what the person knows is NOT good behavior is weak at the start and weakened more continually by repitition. hoarding is not a separate “mental disease”, it is another manifestation of “addiction” and how someone can slide into addiction IS what every expression of it has in common
At age 56, I probably have 15-20 years left on this earth. As this formerly great country disintegrates and ceases to exist and its population becomes anarchic and feral, my cessation of earthly existence will be a welcome one.
Just being on this site constitutes an affliction of a compulsive disorder. Call it patriotism and really get targeted.
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By Mayo Clinic staff
Hoarding is the excessive collection of items, along with the inability to discard them. Hoarding often creates such cramped living conditions that homes may be filled to capacity, with only narrow pathways winding through stacks of clutter. Some people also collect animals, keeping dozens or hundreds of pets often in unsanitary conditions.
Hoarding, also called compulsive hoarding and compulsive hoarding syndrome, may be a symptom of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). But many people who hoard don’t have other OCD-related symptoms.
People who hoard often don’t see it as a problem, making treatment challenging. But intensive treatment can help people who hoard understand their compulsions and live safer, more enjoyable lives.
Couple this with increased screening to buy guns...and you have effectively disarmed the population.
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I know what the real definition is of hoarding, just pointing out that many liberals see prepping as hoarding so it depends on who is defining it. Every single psychiatrist or psychologist I have known has been extremely liberal, so it is a concern that they are addressing this issue.
By the way, we have always had the true hoarders, not sure they should be considered mentally ill. In the case of animals of course the animals should be saved from them if not cared for. In rural areas they would also fill up acres of land with junk or treasures depending on how you look at it. I can remember when people needed some odd thing they went to see the local hoarder to find it. Amazingly enough the hoarder usually knew exactly where it was, some digging might be needed to get to it however.
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