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1 posted on 05/19/2013 5:18:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Riiight. And at the same time Obama’s asking for another debt limit increase!


2 posted on 05/19/2013 5:20:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Un huh.


3 posted on 05/19/2013 5:20:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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40 million U. S. workers idle, many of them getting government benefits of some sort, and we’re paying down the debt?

I’m not sure what medication they’re passing out in D. C., but it must be a long acting gigantic pill.


4 posted on 05/19/2013 5:20:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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So how does this work? The Treasury prints a bunch of money and pays themselves back?


5 posted on 05/19/2013 5:21:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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Btw, what government spending cuts? They haven’t cut a dime.


6 posted on 05/19/2013 5:22:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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So.... We are still increasing total debt by ~$1 trillion annually, but we made a $35 billion principle payment. Therefore, “we are paying down the debt.”

My God, people must be stupid.


7 posted on 05/19/2013 5:24:31 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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But the return to at least one quarter of debt paydown is a clear sign government spending cuts and tax increases have helped lower the deficit.

No it doesn't.

All it means is that a lot of income like cap gains and dividends were accelerated into 2012 to avoid a possible large tax increase that might have happened in 2013.

The 2nd quarter tax receipts reflect 2012 income for april 15. Also estimated taxes for people who file quarterly are based on 2012 income so those are higher even though they are likely overpaying due to income getting moved from quarter 1 of 2013 to quarter 4 of 2012

8 posted on 05/19/2013 5:26:15 PM PDT by staytrue
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On a personal note, I accelerated 100k of cap gains into December of 2012.

My income for 2013 will likely show about a 150,000 drop from 2012 with only 30,000 drop from business falling off while 120,000 fall is due to tax planning.


14 posted on 05/19/2013 5:30:35 PM PDT by staytrue
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That is like saying I am only drinking 5 beers/day instead of 6...so I am alcohol free!


15 posted on 05/19/2013 5:35:47 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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Obama can’t prove that he has had any math training let alone Economics.
16 posted on 05/19/2013 5:36:32 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Projected debt maybe??


17 posted on 05/19/2013 5:41:42 PM PDT by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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I blame the Sequester.


18 posted on 05/19/2013 5:46:03 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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yeah, right...

19 posted on 05/19/2013 5:47:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Wow. Such a “feel good” report. On top of all the other lies.
20 posted on 05/19/2013 5:50:16 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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They’re saying that at the beginning of the third quarter, the total national debt will be lower than it was at the end of the second quarter. Or something like that. How do you run a trillion dollar deficit and make that claim?


21 posted on 05/19/2013 5:51:55 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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Wow! Now we can drop all of these “scandals” and words like “impeachment” because he’s saving us from the debt!/S


22 posted on 05/19/2013 5:54:07 PM PDT by MacMattico
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Don’t we officially run out of money this week?


23 posted on 05/19/2013 5:57:29 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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This is total BS...


24 posted on 05/19/2013 6:04:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Still running a deficit means money has to be borrowed and the debt is higher but....a pay down on the increased debt is surprising? Yes, it is surprising, surprising how stupid they think we are that it can’t be seen as the nonsense that it is.

Higher tax revenue and spending cuts mean the deficit is not as much as expected but it’s still a deficit and it still means money needs to be borrowed ergo the debt is increased.

Clinton was good at these games. Obama is lame at it but is good at intimidating the press and others, so expect it to run in the press for awhile to talk up his ‘accomplishment’.


27 posted on 05/19/2013 6:18:34 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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A feat of bookkeeping legerdermain.


28 posted on 05/19/2013 6:20:26 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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