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This Is No Ordinary Scandal
Wall Street Journal ^ | 5-16-13 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/16/2013 4:48:50 PM PDT by grimalkin

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To: grimalkin

Why is anyone surprised by the use of the IRS to persecute dissent and of the government searching the AP with a secret warrant?

After all it those who support the Obamanation of Desolation that claim the constitution is just a document.

The left believes that the end justifies the means. They believe that their end is good and that any way they can achieve it is justified.

That is the true difference between the left and the right. The Right is generally made up of people that are either absolutist or rationalist in the areas of ethics and morals while the Left are subjectivist which is simply a modern form of sophist


21 posted on 05/16/2013 5:04:36 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: grimalkin

Do you trust the IRS with your health dossier and payment approvals?


22 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ptsal

WHO IS THE LADY BESIDE HOLDER...SHE HAS A RECORDING DEVICE IN HER HAND...


23 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:12 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: grimalkin

Either he knew about fast and furious, IRS harassment, etc., or he didn’t.

If he knew, he’s complicit.

If he didn’t, he’s incompetent.

Choose your poison, Zero, you loser shyster huckster con-man!


24 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:15 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: KC Burke
What the heck did Noonan do? As far as I can recall, she wrote some touchy-feely column(s) about Obama being a transcendent figure, and about how his acceptance speech was "inspiring" (or something).

Look at her now, she wrote a touchy-feely column that is right on the money--just as the earlier ones were.

25 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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WHO IS THE LADY NEXT TO HOLDER.... SHE RECORDED THE EXCHANGE.....

....A NAME PLEASE....

26 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:13 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: grimalkin
And it would be shameful and shallow for any Republican operative or operator to make this scandal into a commercial and turn it into a mere partisan arguing point and part of the game. It's not part of the game.

Totally disagree with Noonan on this point! If ever we need to enter the 'game' and start playing hard ball, this is it! If talking points are true, why should they be off limits in the 'game', when the game is the very serious task of bringing attention to people and things that are wrong in our govt?

27 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:24 PM PDT by uncitizen (Drip drip drip)
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To: KC Burke

She did and it was disgusting. I felt embarrassed for her.


28 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:32 PM PDT by grimalkin (Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: grimalkin

BTTT


29 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:36 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: grimalkin

Bengazi is the scandal; all else is distraction. Actionable distraction certainly but it’s Bengazi that will keep Hillary out of the white house


30 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:51 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

And regardless of whether “the standing of the administration has changed,” almost certainly, nothing will be done about any of this. What came of Fast and Furious? — Nothing, and nobody cares. Nobody is going to care about this, either. With the ‘Rat control of the Senate, President Zero knows he is untouchable.

The country voted for him, and the country needs to have all four years of him. And his little dog Boener, too.


31 posted on 05/16/2013 5:07:27 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: grimalkin

0bama using the IRS against his political enemies is clearly an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE and are the actions of a tyrant.


32 posted on 05/16/2013 5:08:42 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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33 posted on 05/16/2013 5:09:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Whoever she is, she seems to be getting hot watching holder the magnificent administer a thourough dressing down to whitey.


34 posted on 05/16/2013 5:10:26 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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I seem to remember there was a name on the thread when I first saw that photo. Of course I have no idea when I first saw it. Maggief is a good researcher, and has a good memory, and also Mesta Machine may remember.


35 posted on 05/16/2013 5:14:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: grimalkin
We all have our biases. Mine is for a federal government that, for all the partisan shootouts on the streets of Washington, is allowed to go about its work. That it not be distracted by scandal, that political disagreement be, in the end, subsumed to the common good.

Really, Peggy. Do you not understand that this administration and the Democrat party have made the work of the federal government to subsume individual liberty and economic freedom?

How else can the country be defended except by "partisan shootouts"?

There is an enemy within, Peggy, and he controls the federal government. And, may I add, he is the guy you supported...

36 posted on 05/16/2013 5:16:09 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: grimalkin
And it would be shameful and shallow for any Republican operative or operator to make this scandal into a commercial and turn it into a mere partisan arguing point and part of the game. It's not part of the game. This is not about the usual partisan slugfest. This is about the integrity of our system of government and our ability to trust, which is to say our ability to function.

How, then, do you propose to fight it, Peggy? With a high-minded bi-partisan commission of Washington lifers? Like yourself?

37 posted on 05/16/2013 5:18:28 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: grimalkin

I have had it. If they don’t clean this house top to bottom, I will become an ex-pat.


38 posted on 05/16/2013 5:18:48 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: nickcarraway
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I didn't know that Mrs. Noonan had divorced ... and is now dating "Captain Obvious" ...


Actually, Peggy would fit in nicely with those 1930's Geman Industrialists (and their beautiful wives) who enjoyed "flirting" with the Nazis ...


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39 posted on 05/16/2013 5:19:56 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Piss upon Obama, and his False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: muir_redwoods

Bengazi is by far the worst but it poses a problem for those who want to be rid of obumbler.

In regard to Bengazi, there are many problems in charging obumbler. Dumb....no law against dumb. Bad judgement...no law against that. Ashamed of the end result?....no law against being ashamed.

But the IRS matter is clearly a criminal act. It can be proven that it was intentional, law breaking, etc.

I think that is why the congress, most of whom are lawyers, are bearing down on the IRS matter even though unlike Bengazi, no one died.

It is a matter of which case one could try in court and make a convincing argument under the law.


40 posted on 05/16/2013 5:20:34 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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