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1 posted on 05/11/2013 10:12:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Black and Hispanic immigrants are either going to have higher or lower IQs.

It would be a statistical fluke if they had the same exact IQs.

2 posted on 05/11/2013 10:16:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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In any discussion like this I think it’s wise to remember this analogy. Swedes are taller than Portuguese but Portuguese basketball players are taller that Swedish jockeys. Every individual should be assessed on his or her individual characteristics.


3 posted on 05/11/2013 10:18:41 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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My mother always said “ You are Judged by those you have around you.”

I suppose in retrospect we could say we Judge others by their actions.

Is that racist? If it is it’s tough .


4 posted on 05/11/2013 10:22:06 AM PDT by Venturer
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It is racist to come to any conclusions on race, unless you conclude that all minority races are being oppressed.


5 posted on 05/11/2013 10:22:47 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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If the IQ tests are not reliable, take a poll and ask questions. Everyone is relying on polls. [/sarc]


6 posted on 05/11/2013 10:25:18 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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Depends. If you poll nationwide, probably not. If you poll within groups of similar education/income level, then yes.


8 posted on 05/11/2013 10:30:46 AM PDT by Viennacon
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Remember what was done to the people who wrote “The Bell Curve”. Facts be damned, the agenda is all important.


9 posted on 05/11/2013 10:31:53 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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I haven’t clicked on NRO since they fired John Derbyshire.


11 posted on 05/11/2013 10:38:48 AM PDT by bluetick (If you're going to err, err on the side of liberty.)
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It seems as though IQ in this instance, is measuring assimilation. The hip hop culture is less like dominate American culture than is Hispanic culture but black language is more like English than is Spanish. Asian language lag is somewhat offset by aggressive assimilation.


14 posted on 05/11/2013 11:16:45 AM PDT by JimSEA
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Putting political correctness aside it is not racist to say that certain groups have statistically different characteristics like IQ. IMO it is racist to look at one member of a group and assume they will have a certain IQ based on some assumed racial group. Group stats are averages. Some will be higher or lower. Also different genetic mixes, heritage and environmental factors will have an effect. You can't just look at someone and assume you know all those factors. Treat everyone with respect that is unless they espouse nonsense like liberalism. :-)
16 posted on 05/11/2013 11:59:35 AM PDT by plain talk
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Just post-birth abort the useless eaters.


17 posted on 05/11/2013 12:00:15 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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It’s those whitey biased IQ tests that makes ‘em LOOK dumber than they are...


18 posted on 05/11/2013 12:05:26 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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It is racist to notice or communicate anything negative about any “protected minority”, either as individuals or as a group.


22 posted on 05/11/2013 12:40:07 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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The idea that one should not study the differences in the variations of any category of things, organic or inorganic, is applied only to the subject of the variations in Mankind. That phenomenon, alone, should convince any reasoning being that the Egalitarian "make-believe" that people are interchangeable, is compulsion (neurotic) driven, not reason driven. (See Footnote On Absurd Compulsion.)

Of course, it is a convenient compulsion to exploit by those intent on destroying the very concept of a Nation, and the promotion of the bias that encourages that compulsion may be directly traced to those trying to subvert America into a New World Order. (See Norman Cousins & Surrender By Subterfuge.) It was a major factor in the push for the Teddy Kennedy immigration "reform" in 1965.

William Flax

23 posted on 05/11/2013 12:45:28 PM PDT by Ohioan
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Guess what, from a PR perspective, none of this exegesis matters in the least. It doesn’t matter what is true, and he didn’t mean it this way, etc. What matters is that just like in the Victorian era, when one didn’t say.the word ”pregnant” were not used, in our society we can’t talk openly about racial genetics and interiority. Period. So if you want to talk about it, you had better make that topic your career, because you wilk have impaired your credibility to discuss anything else. Period. The writer and the HF should have realized that his previous paper on racial intellectual inequality would be used as a weapon to destroy not only his new study on immigration, but to smear the HF and discredit the entire conservative movement. So I say to them: badly, stupidly, carelessly played to not have seen that coming.


24 posted on 05/11/2013 12:54:10 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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Experience would tell you that there are some very smart black people, and some very dumb white people.


25 posted on 05/11/2013 1:01:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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When I first heard about this, I was not surprised that the guy would be under attack. Of course, on the other hand, how long do you think you can get away with a dissertation like this and call it “work”? Isn’t this one for a Captain Obvious award? Do folks think they are sneaking across the border to get books instead of landscaping jobs? If they were the smartest, most productive people, the Democrats would be clamoring for a fence 500’ feet high.


27 posted on 05/11/2013 1:29:36 PM PDT by BRK
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That’s interracial!


28 posted on 05/11/2013 1:45:46 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Statistical evidence is insufficient to support the hypothesis that Hispanics and Blacks have a lower average IQ than whites.

However ... statistical evidence is sufficient to support the hypothesis that a policy that has a “disparate impact” is evidence of deliberate discrimination against Hispanics and Blacks.

Ox? Gored?


33 posted on 05/11/2013 2:50:25 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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Any fact about any protected race that is not completely flatering will be determined to be racist and the proponent of the fact in question will be determined to be racist. Even saying balcks are killing balck in Chicago is a racist comment if a white man makes the comment. Just ask Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. That is how they make their living.


37 posted on 05/11/2013 8:12:11 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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