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Tim Tebow, Jason Collins and the culture war (Who is now considered "controversial"?)
American Thinker ^ | 04/30/2013 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 04/30/2013 7:12:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Two sports stories made headlines yesterday: The New York Jets released openly Christian quarterback Tim Tebow, and NBA player Jason Collins came out of the closet, making him the first active, openly gay professional athlete in the four major U.S. sports (basketball, football, baseball and hockey).

It's not surprising to hear of Tebow's release; he rarely played for the Jets, was seldom used at all, and ended up being their third-string quarterback. I'm certainly no sports analyst, but it seems to me that he really wasn't given much of a chance in New York, especially considering that starting quarterback Mark Sanchez struggled for several games and was eventually benched.

I'd like to think Tebow's release had everything to do with his performance on the field (for the few minutes he did play) and not due to his "controversial" Christian beliefs. Call me conspiratorial, but I'm not entirely convinced that's the case.

Then we have the news that NBA player Jason Collins has announced he's gay. The mainstream media are, not surprisingly, gushing over him, even saying he's courageous for proclaiming his homosexuality to the world. But it appears that several NBA executives--speaking anonymously, of course--are far from certain that his career in the NBA will continue.

From ESPN.COM:

Of the first 14 teams reached by ESPN.com in an anonymous survey, six said they expect to see Jason Collins in the NBA next season in the wake of his revelation Monday that he is gay.

The other eight teams that expressed some measure of doubt all cited Collins' age and corresponding questions about his ability to make a productive on-court contribution as the overriding reason he wouldn't be able to find a job for his 13th season, not because of fallout from the announcement....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christian; gay; jasoncollins; timtebow
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To: SeekAndFind

Most articles on Tebow call him polarizing. Tebow isn’t polarizing, the media is.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 7:42:26 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Real Christians need to think about giving their money to the NFL that obviously does not welcome Christian athletes who witness to the faith.

“He who loves father or mother...or son or daughter... more than me is not worthy of me,” said Jesus (Matt. 10:37). That probably also covers loyalty to the Packers, Cowboys, Broncos et al.


22 posted on 04/30/2013 7:46:26 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: manc

Very true.


23 posted on 04/30/2013 7:47:02 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: manc

You seem to enjoy these graphic descriptions of what homosxuals
do a little too much IMHO.


24 posted on 04/30/2013 7:47:28 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: freedumb2003
His exhortations are not new to the NFL (nor NBA nor MLB).

Yes, when this brouhaha began, I was really amazed. I figured all of these "offended" people, who couldn't take a man kneeling and saying a little prayer after a good play, had never watched a baseball game. These players are forever crossing themselves and pointing to heaven. The Mariner's pitcher Felix Hernandez has something, I know not what, tatooed onto the inside of both wrists and when he makes a particularly good out, he kisses the inside of each wrist and points to heaven. I know of another pitcher that I have watched (can't think of his name) who, before the first pitch he throws, he quietly steps off behind the mound, removes his cap, bows his head and says a prayer. Then, he starts pitching. Batters, when they reach a base safely, will cross themselves.

Now, I really don't want these easily offended people to suddenly discover that a lot of baseball players are Hispanic and Catholic and they show it on the field; but, it is amazing that Tebow had such a reaction when this stuff goes on all the time.

25 posted on 04/30/2013 7:50:20 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: GSWarrior

it’s to get the idiots who seem to not to care about the truth, why , should I repeat the same lies and crap as the left does and state how they are happy people , gay happy people who want to live their life in private but then have their freak parades and tell us what they are sexually.

I understand the left not wanting me to speak the truth about what they do to each other and why does he and others like him have the need to tell us this anyway?

Does he feel better now that has got attention, was he not happy with all the money he made but now has to become a media whore to an agenda which most oppose but the media will make it look that us conservatives are the ones who are at fault for wanting normal marriage and normal couples raising kids


26 posted on 04/30/2013 7:52:30 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: greene66

not just glorified but also the first lady tweeting about how she has his back and how brave he was.

What so brave in saying that today when he has all the media, Hollywood, colleges, laws bills and even the white house on his side.

And I would like to know why he feels we should know what he is liking in his sex life?

Questions which the media will not ask and yet damage a Christian player and glorify a homosexual


27 posted on 04/30/2013 7:54:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

“first lady tweeting about how she has his back”

Well, that might explain a suspicion I’ve always had about her.


28 posted on 04/30/2013 7:56:46 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

LOL, I bet her husband has his back too seeing as he;s the biggest fairy this country has ever said and he is certainly no man


29 posted on 04/30/2013 7:57:56 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

The other eight teams that expressed some measure of doubt all cited Collins’ age and corresponding questions about his ability to make a productive on-court contribution as the overriding reason he wouldn’t be able to find a job for his 13th season, not because of fallout from the announcement....

This is why he came out now. The guy was on 6 teams in 12 years. Believe me when I say his being a homosexual was no secret. But now that he ANNOUNCED and has become a HERO and backed by the PRESIDENT , it will be extremely hard for the NBA to let him go next season for any reason. Can you say MEGA-MILLION dollar lawsuit!


30 posted on 04/30/2013 8:01:13 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I bet Mark Cuban will sign him.


31 posted on 04/30/2013 8:01:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

My grandparents would believe they had been transported to bizzaro world if they were alive today. An openly Christian athlete is criticized for making his faith a matter of public record when His savior commands him to make disciples of all men. And there seems to be no limit on the vile things which can be said by Tebow’s critics.

And this same crowd celebrates and praises an athlete for publicly proclaiming a behavior which should be kept private and some find distasteful or repulsive. However, if anyone dare raises a contrary opinion it will end their career and warrant death threats.

How did this reversal happen in a few short years? And Christians were mocked when they pointed out the slippery slope we were treading.

And then there is the trial shedding light on an abortion house of horrors, terrorists on welfare, on and on. May God have mercy on us. His sovereign will is that I live in such days. Lord, bring revival and come quickly.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 8:13:52 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

Isaiah 5:20

33 posted on 04/30/2013 8:14:03 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: freedumb2003

I think you are wrong on the bushel analogy. Jesus states you do not light a lamp and than put it under a basket - bushel or otherwise. You light the lamp and place it high, so the light shines everywhere. Same with Christianity. You are not to keep your belief under cover - you are to proclaim yourself proudly as a believer.


34 posted on 04/30/2013 8:23:00 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: txrefugee
Real Christians need to think about giving their money to the NFL that obviously does not welcome Christian athletes who witness to the faith.

The NFL does not welcome quarterbacks who complete less than half their passes.

35 posted on 04/30/2013 9:06:52 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: txrefugee
There may be some justification for his fans to suspect that Tebow’s open displays of thanksgiving to God on the field is the real reason for him losing his job, and as a born again Christian (there's no other kind) myself I can understand that suspicion. We Christians aren't popular in today's world, and in truth we never have been. However, in his case I think there's good reason to believe what was quite obvious when Denver traded him, namely that his inability to adapt to the pro game is the real reason, and that's an entirely valid reason in the pro game.
36 posted on 04/30/2013 9:08:57 AM PDT by epow (I'm not waiting for the undertaker, I'm looking for the Upper Taker)
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To: Luke21

>>The word “antics” is the word that you chose to describe his works and his offering to the Lord. You are in effect, sitting in judgment of him.<<

No, just observing. And sharing Tebow’s shame.


37 posted on 04/30/2013 9:29:16 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: 7thson

>>I think you are wrong on the bushel analogy. <<

I guess I am more in the Matthew camp (I always have been).

One can proselytize yto spread The Word, but one’s discussions with God should not be a public spectacle.


38 posted on 04/30/2013 9:32:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: freedumb2003

And Michael Vick has an NFL job.


39 posted on 04/30/2013 9:44:54 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred
Michael Vick completes more than half his passes.
40 posted on 04/30/2013 9:54:44 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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