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A well done explanation. The left considers the Constitution to be a document to be rendered impotent through "interpretation", because it limits government.
1 posted on 04/28/2013 10:04:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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All so perfectly stated yet the GCA of 1968 still bars good people from that right.


2 posted on 04/28/2013 10:08:31 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Writers like this are the reason we are in danger of “losing” what few rights remain.

One cannot “lose” a Natural Right. You possess that Right even if the government decides to abrogate it. The author is dangerously close to saying that our Constitution “grants” us our Natural Rights. Nothing could be further from the truth. Even IF the 2nd Amendment were repealed we would still retain our Right to bear arms. That Right, and all of the others, predate the Constitution. All the BOR does is ENUMERATE certain rights.

Arguing things any other way sets us up for failure.


3 posted on 04/28/2013 10:10:53 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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I like to keep up with what the liberals are saying. Last night on PBS, the show “Need to Know” hosted by the ultra lib Ray Saurez had as guests three 2nd amendment “expert scholars”.

One was a woman, Joyce Lee Malcolm of George Mason Univ. Law School and I was expecting her to be the worst of them! Boy, was I wrong!

She was outstanding and put the 2 lib professors in their place with history and facts. She had them stuttering a couple times.
Here is one of her recent articles, and IIRC she has a book also.

Joyce Lee Malcolm: Two Cautionary Tales of Gun Control

After a school massacre, the U.K. banned handguns in 1998. A decade later, handgun crime had doubled.[snip]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html


4 posted on 04/28/2013 10:15:22 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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I saw this movie the other night “The Brave one” with Jodie Foster which is like a Death wish movie but with a female vigilante. What it’s about is Foster plays this woman who was walking through a park with her fiance and these punks mug them and beat her fiance to death. So for the rest of the movie, it goes into Death wish mode. Foster buys a gun and starts going vigilante, then eventually killing the muggers. So I read this comment somebody put on Veehd.com about the flick “If she had a gun in the first place it would have been a very short movie” LOL! That cracked me up. SO00 freakin’ true! It got me to remember, liberals are not only trying to sell gun control, they are also trying to sell you Utopia, this idea that society is 1000% safe, perfect and heavenly. That we don’t need a gun for protection, you live in Utopia where everyone is nice and perfect and rape and murder never happen and the government is nice and will never go tyranny and people buy into that and what happens? They get killed. They get raped, murdered, brutalized. Why? Because they can’t defend themselves! Why? Because liberals have made them believe that it’s a safe world out there when it isn’t and so many people buy into that until it’s too late.


6 posted on 04/28/2013 10:20:23 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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It is all well and good for logical, well-explained arguments to be put forth to honorable and rational opponents. However, for these gun-takers, this is just another in a long line of ‘things we have to get rid of.’

Get rid of in order to enslave you. There isn’t any talking with these people, there isn’t any discussion, there isn’t any compromise. The time for this is done and over.

The time for more permanent action is here. Come and get them.


8 posted on 04/28/2013 10:40:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I’ve tried to explain this very concept, which seems so simple, but even some FReepers resist it


11 posted on 04/28/2013 10:56:51 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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"Another type of "right" is one we can only have if a state or government gives it to us."

The author's idea here is sound, but he blows it by using an incorrect term. A government can't grant rights of any kind. They can only bestow privileges, or trample upon natural, God-given rights.

Our natural rights are inalienable, due the the simple fact of our birth on this planet. All people have the same rights as Americans, whether their governments choose to recognize them or not.

Our government may single me out as being someone who has a 'right' to healthcare, but that's a suppressive misuse of the language. I don't have any right to another person's labor or treasure, just as they have no intrinsic right to mine. I can only be granted the privilege of taking part of another's rightfully owned labor or treasure by the point of a gun or threat of imprisonment.

Government is force.

13 posted on 04/28/2013 11:06:02 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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We are told we should not judge all Muslims because of the acts of a few BY THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE WHO tell us that we must give up our 2nd Amendment rights because of a few criminals.

We are told by our government that the human debris in Egypt can be trusted with our military technology but the same government, in their own words, tell us that we cannot be trusted with little fire sticks.

Must be nice to be a communist liberal as you can easily have two, or more more, mutually exclusive thoughts in your mind without any sense of hypocrisy.

Obviously our government must be under the control of some external forces as their decisions seem to be falling against honest Americans and in the favor of criminals internal and external.


15 posted on 04/28/2013 11:29:18 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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It’s funny how the left is always saying that you have a right to this and you have a right to that and such and such is a civil right, but the right to bear arms, which is guaranteed by the 2nd amendment, shall be denied.

They are trying to paint themselves as the originators of rights, and they can go to Hell.

I get nothing from them, and I want nothing from them.


16 posted on 04/28/2013 11:37:59 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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In my understanding of the Constitution, it’s not a right, but an obligation, of every citizen to help defend their country if called upon to do so. But hey - I’m an extremist.


18 posted on 04/28/2013 11:54:47 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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The Constitution can be rendered impotent only if it is not defended, by whatever it takes. This is where the second amendment kicks in, and why the second amendment is first and foremost on the liberal’s hit list.


20 posted on 04/28/2013 12:51:06 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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What would happen if the majority of people just started carrying concealed because the believe in their right to do so?


29 posted on 04/28/2013 4:14:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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