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The Issue is Not Chechnya, It’s Islamist Terrorism
Front Page Magazine ^ | April 19, 2013 | By Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 04/19/2013 10:25:06 AM PDT by drewh

Now that we know who the bombers are and one of them is dead, and that they are Chechen Muslims, the media has gone into “Palestinian” mode insisting that we need to talk about the conflict in Chechnya.

We can talk about Chechnya, but the issue there and everywhere else is Islamic nationalism or Islamism. The bombers could have been from Chechnya or Mali or Bosnia or Iraq or Egypt or Afghanistan or any Muslim country where Islamists are active. And that’s most Muslim countries, especially after the Arab Spring.

There is a conflict in Chechnya and Iraq and Pakistan and Afghanistan and Thailand and Nigeria and the Philippines and India and Israel and France and a hundred other countries.

Where there is a sizable Muslim majority or even sizable minority, there is conflict.

Any talk about pressuring Russia into “resolving” or “appeasing” Chechen Islamists (at least the ones not allied with Russia) is a silly waste of time.

Russia isn’t Israel. It’s not going to be intimidated into making deals with terrorists. And talking about the demands of Chechen Islamists is a waste of time. Their demands are the same as the demands of all Islamists.

Islamism is Transnational. You cannot solve it locally. The situation in Israel has proven that. Giving in to territorial demands always fails because a transnational movement wants more than a few miles here and there. They want a regional and then a global Caliphate.

America had nothing to do with the conflict in Chechnya. That didn’t stop Dzhokar Tsarneav and Tamerlan Tsarneav from carrying out the mass murder of Americans.

To understand Dzhokar Tsarneav and Tamerlan Tsarneav is to understand that Islam is transnational.

“World view” is listed as “Islam” and his “Personal priority” is “career and money”.

He has posted links to videos of fighters in the Syrian civil war and to Islamic web pages with titles like “Salamworld, my religion is Islam” and “There is no God but Allah, let that ring out in our hearts”.

It’s Allah Akbar all over again.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bostonbombers; danielgreenfield; globaljihad; greenfield; islam; islamicterrorism; jihad; radicalislam; sharia; terrorism; tsarneav
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To: gasport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onward,_Christian_Soldiers


21 posted on 04/19/2013 11:11:05 AM PDT by gasport (I ain't got no guns.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

BINGO


22 posted on 04/19/2013 11:14:28 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: drewh
Exactly....

I thin k in the long run....Putin will make a public statement. And I think he's gonna tell us we had info on these guys all along.

23 posted on 04/19/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: drewh

i thought the president said it was some one mad at tax day!


24 posted on 04/19/2013 11:19:41 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: murrie

Thank you—and LOVE your tag line!


25 posted on 04/19/2013 11:19:50 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Join me today, and every day, in the loss and the anger. The job’s not done. This anger won’t stop, until it is finished..
Do you recall the cowards who beheaded helpless victims on video? I want to hunt these bastards and their ilk down where ever they hide and exterminate them. No negotiations, No reasoning, No prisoners. Just dead. Years from now, I want their children’s children’s children to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead because their legends tell of fire from the sky.
I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth, shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.
I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with “If you don’t behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you”, and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obedience.
I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern God from across the sea and the powerful Americans .. destroyed their forefathers’ wickedness.”

NEVER FORGET... NEVER FORGIVE!!!!!!!


26 posted on 04/19/2013 11:21:39 AM PDT by itsLUCKY2B (?Borders, Language, and Culture.?)
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To: drewh
Well I hate to burst that bubble but being chechen is a big part of it, imo. I studied the chechens intensely every day for many years.

The chechen culture existed before wahabi came.

27 posted on 04/19/2013 11:22:48 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: drewh

While this is essentially, true, the issue has become Chechnya, whether it is politically correct to say so or not. Radical Islamists flocked to Chechnya to help them fight against Russia, the Mujadeen in Chechnya morphed into Al Qaeda.

Take a look at this and tell me that Chechnya is not part of the problem:
The Smell of Paradise - http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/smell-paradise/

-An Islamic world tour is documented here by visits to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, and Qatar, to highlight events post 9/11, including footage taken a few years before.
The film above all endeavors to shed light on the process leading young men to the radical choice of self-sacrifice, becoming human bombs.
The directors of the film traveled for ten years throughout these countries under heavy Muslim influence, and met with clan leaders, mullahs, and other strict followers of the Koran.

The Smell of Paradise was shot in Chechnya, Dagestan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Qatar and Afghanistan, in places that have become white spaces on the map of Western journalism.
It takes the viewer not only into a different world, but also to another time. The result is a unique glance into the land of the jihad, the mental and physical battle that drives the Islamic fundamentalist movement.

http://www.amazon.com/Chechnya-Jihad-Marc-Andre-Meyers/dp/0916251179

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j70qbmdU3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j70qbmdU3E
http://www.amazon.com/Chechnya-Jihad-Marc-Andre-Meyers/dp/0916251179


28 posted on 04/19/2013 12:04:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: drewh

29 posted on 04/19/2013 12:05:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: drewh

I seem to remember 60 minutes here in Aust. shilling for the the Chechen Rebels against the Russian military. We may not like Putin’s way of doing things at time but at least he knows his enemies and how to dispatch them.

60 mintues are very helpful though - I have realised over the years that those rebels or freedom fighters they shill for are tomorrows terrorists. It’s nice to be forewarned.

Mel


30 posted on 04/19/2013 12:12:09 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: AuntB

Oh yes, you are right.

I do not want nay part of immigration reform or anything else this psychotic government of fools wants to perpetrate on us.

ENOUGH!


31 posted on 04/19/2013 12:57:23 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: itsLUCKY2B

AMEN! THANK YOU! We need that attitude in MILLIONS of Americans to rise up and END THIS insanity. I want the word ‘Islam’ to join the ranks of dead ‘religions’ and I want it considered an obscenity by all mankind for all time.


32 posted on 04/19/2013 1:03:27 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: House Atreides
Yeah!

Look what they did to NYC! and we have done...



NOTHING!

33 posted on 04/19/2013 3:09:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AuntB
And now, the same facilitators want to bring in MORE!

HELLO!

Our prisons churn out BLACK Muslims by the THOUSANDS!!!

34 posted on 04/19/2013 3:10:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ClearBlueSky
If guns are bad before they do anything- why aren’t Muslims?

If fetuses are disposable; why not adults?

35 posted on 04/19/2013 3:13:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And one doesn’t excuse the other.


36 posted on 04/19/2013 3:13:53 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: melsec
I have realised over the years that those rebels or freedom fighters they shill for are tomorrows terrorists. It’s nice to be forewarned.

Kinda like another Freedom Fighter...


http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/castro-visits-the-united-states

37 posted on 04/19/2013 3:16:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: drewh

Dead on. Islam is very anti-nationist. They want a world-wide Caliphate.


38 posted on 04/19/2013 5:55:44 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: drewh
Any talk about pressuring Russia into “resolving” or “appeasing” Chechen Islamists (at least the ones not allied with Russia) is a silly waste of time.

Because we in the US no longer have any leadership willing to stand up and say the following:

Admittedly I haven't verified this, but the basics match what I have heard of Putin, and should be the guidepost of all Western Civilizations. Get the Islamist usurpers out of our government!

39 posted on 04/19/2013 5:58:05 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Standing Wolf
there may be one or two violent conflicts in the world that aren't Islamic-caused.

Northern Ireland, and gang wars in Central America are honestly the only two I can think of. Every other conflict I can think of involves Islam.

40 posted on 04/19/2013 6:30:41 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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