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Vanity: Shortage of Farm Workers?...
Bay news 9

Posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:09 PM PDT by kas7351

I just watched the local news here in Tampa. They had a segment stating that we have a shortage of workers to work the farms. They interviewed the owner of a strawberry farm and he mentioned that due to the shortage of immigrants being allowed to enter this country, he doesn't have enough workers.

Guess the people on unemployment or that have dropped out of the workforce are too good to pick strawberries? Guess they would rather get the handouts!


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; farms; farmworkers; illegals; unemployment; vanity
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To: delapaz; kas7351
your brother-in-law is a huge part of the immigration problem.

In some industries, those who hire illegal aliens can significantly undercut those who insist on hiring legal immigrants or Americans.

So the second group has a choice, they can hire illegals in order to compete, or they can lose all their business to the first group and go broke.

Individual business owners who do what they have to do to survive are not necessarily the villains of the piece. How exactly does their going out of business in favor of the other guy help the situation?

The answer is not to demonize those who adapt to what the market demands, but rather to enforce the laws so as to remove the competitive advantage of those who break them.

21 posted on 04/14/2013 1:57:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: cripplecreek

Sheriff Arapio would have to come to Florida and then maybe this would be possible.


22 posted on 04/14/2013 1:58:06 PM PDT by kas7351
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To: kas7351

Growing up in Central Florida we’d get up at midnight during a frost to set smudge pots. In the Spring we would pick fruit on the weekends and after school. Worked 12 hour shifts during the fruit “run” too. People don’t do this work to raise families (some get stuck) but you use it as a building block. This article may have merit, but how low has our work ethic become? My daughter is 17 and works at a Pizza Hut. So what? She’s not going to make a career out of it!


23 posted on 04/14/2013 1:58:17 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: glorgau

Around here we still have teenagers doing a lot of the farm work. I talked to a kid at the party store who just came in from the field where he was picking rocks.

He said he gets $10 per hour under the table. Not too shabby. I made $5 back in the 80s.


24 posted on 04/14/2013 1:58:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bboop

I tell you what,those Mexican roofers can get that old roof off and a new one on in record time. When you have the fat white guys do it, it takes for frickin ever.

I got a painting bid from somebody who was from somewhere in SA and I got one from an overfed white guy and the foreign guy was 2K under the other one, got in here and got that wall paper off and the walls painted in record time. Worked from 8 am to 6 pm every night.

I have more house than energy, so when it gets really dusty I will call a cleaning service. 25 years ago it was black ladies who resented me for hiring them. These days it is Mexican ladies who can clean like nobody’s business.

So, if they have a good work ethic I am all over it.


25 posted on 04/14/2013 2:00:08 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Wet backs get benifits now and do not wanna work!
They live 5 families to a house and combine all income!
Uncle Sam pays them to stay home.
“ We don’t need no stinkin strawberries!”


26 posted on 04/14/2013 2:00:11 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: poobear

Our generation coddled our offspring and declared them to be too good for physical labor. (Not you or I personally but you get the point)


27 posted on 04/14/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: kas7351

Sherrif Joe would use his prisoners. Of course, that would be demeaning for the obama crowd.


28 posted on 04/14/2013 2:02:13 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: kas7351

Deportation breaks apart families in Ohio, across nation (Freepers in thread demand that American citizen and veteran of Afghanistan War leave for Mexico)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3007800/posts


29 posted on 04/14/2013 2:03:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: kas7351

I worked at an orange packing house one Christmas vacation in the early 70s. This was Polk County, FL. I was on what they called “set off” which was grabbing boxes of oranges off the belt and stacking them so they could be grabbed by the fork lift and moved into trailers or box cars.

It was hard work and I was talking to the guys who I worked with. I asked why they didn’t pick oranges. Was it harder work? The answer was no it was easier. Do you make less? No you make more picking.

Then why do you work here. All the people in the packing house were locals. Their only answer was “it is inside work”.

I think there was literally a dividing line. The locals did inside work and the migrants did outside labor.


30 posted on 04/14/2013 2:04:05 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: kas7351

With 20-odd million illegals in the country it would appear they also think they are too good to pick strawberries.


31 posted on 04/14/2013 2:04:58 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: yarddog

Ain’t we something special?...?..??? We should have inside work.


32 posted on 04/14/2013 2:08:42 PM PDT by kas7351
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To: skeeter
With 20-odd million illegals in the country it would appear they also think they are too good to pick strawberries.

These days we're fishing with the safety net.
33 posted on 04/14/2013 2:10:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Unfortunately, I don’t think prison rules allow second shifts so they would need to leave in the middle of the afternoon unless they are on work release and that is not technically a prisoner. A six-month work visa would also greatly benefit immigrants who pick crops in fields, as they could come to America during the harvest seasons. I thought there was already a program like that in place actually.


34 posted on 04/14/2013 2:10:29 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Conserev1

Interesting comments. Not.

You didn’t address my point that market forces mean an employer, in many cases, either uses illegals or goes out of business.


35 posted on 04/14/2013 2:10:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: kas7351

I have no idea what you are saying or maybe implying.

Maybe I just didn’t understand or maybe you didn’t explain it very well.


36 posted on 04/14/2013 2:12:47 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: cripplecreek

Well said.


37 posted on 04/14/2013 2:14:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kas7351

The situation has to do with pay - and it always has... Farmers, assembly line factory owners, contruction owners - only want to pay the WAGE BUSTING price created by hiring illegal aliens. It has been proven time and again - if the pay is enough for an American to live a 1st. World lifestyle instead of 6 families to a house 3rd. World style then American workers will take the jobs... Every other excuse is a lie ...


38 posted on 04/14/2013 2:14:24 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: erlayman
A six-month work visa would also greatly benefit immigrants who pick crops in fields, as they could come to America during the harvest seasons. I thought there was already a program like that in place actually.

We've got millions of illegals here now who aren't doing it and we've had guest worker programs in place for all of my 50 years. Anybody who says we need more guest worker programs is a liar.
39 posted on 04/14/2013 2:14:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
they can’t get the migrants from last year to come back.

Or can’t get them to come off welfare.

Colorado gives $2B to illegal immigrants but blackmails schools into forcing parents to work in school.

40 posted on 04/14/2013 2:17:18 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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