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Rubio: I've Avoided Making The Political Calculus On Immigration [Meet The Press]
NBCNews.com ^ | 14 April 2013 | Carrie Dann

Posted on 04/14/2013 11:36:22 AM PDT by zeestephen

Top Republican immigration reform negotiator and potential 2016 presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio said Sunday that he has not considered the "political calculus" of pushing legislation that will be a magnet for criticism from some within his own party.

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The interview with NBC's David Gregory was part of a weekend media blitz for Rubio, who appeared on all network Sunday shows as well as on Spanish-language programs to sell the immigration bill.

The "Gang of Eight" bill is expected to be unveiled on Tuesday.

The actual bill that Rubio is promoting has NOT been made public!

1 posted on 04/14/2013 11:36:22 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

In case anyone has forgotten.....

80% of new immigrant citizens vote for the Democrat Party.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 11:39:14 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
The bill will undoubtedly create a category of people who are essentially slaves ~
3 posted on 04/14/2013 11:39:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: zeestephen
Top Republican immigration reform negotiator and potential 2016 presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio said Sunday that he has not considered the "political calculus" of pushing legislation that will be a magnet for criticism from some within his own party.

We'll do it for you, Senator. Don't worry.

4 posted on 04/14/2013 11:41:20 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: zeestephen

What’s he trying to be so high profile for? - a presidential run isn’t in your future Marco - you fail the Article 2 Sect. 1 litmus test.

One usurper per my lifetime - please


5 posted on 04/14/2013 11:45:02 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: zeestephen; mickie; flaglady47
His statement just shows to go ya that Marco is wrestling with a guilty conscience about a lot of terrible provisions in the proposed bill....and he's covering himself as well as he can by pre-empting the outrage which will be directed right between his eyes when it's revealed this coming week.

Don't doubt me on this.

Leni

6 posted on 04/14/2013 11:45:32 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: zeestephen

With any luck, Rubio will lose the 2016 Senatorial primary and return to private life.


7 posted on 04/14/2013 11:45:45 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: zeestephen

Rubio=Quisling. Already more and more illegals are coming across the border looking for Obama Amnesty centers,

Why would a conservative vote Republican ever again?

Does anyone have an alternative, or should I stay home on Election Day?

Depressed.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 11:47:15 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: zeestephen

Rubio is the Second Coming of Crist. Unlike Charlie, Rubio may have the Cuban vote locked up, whatever his party affiliation. So he might actually win re-election, but as a Democrat.


9 posted on 04/14/2013 11:48:46 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: conservativehistorian
Why would a conservative vote Republican ever again?

Because the Republican running for that seat in 2016 won't be Rubio - he'll have switched parties to avoid being primaried.

10 posted on 04/14/2013 11:50:06 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: All

Oh, and before we get into another debate about NBC - the evil left already dug up the moldering old corpse of Chester Alan Arthur 2 years ago in their playbook defense of “see, everyone does it!” “ CAA wasn’t an NBC either! “


11 posted on 04/14/2013 11:50:14 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: conservativehistorian

I’m thinking of starting an underground city in Antarctica.


12 posted on 04/14/2013 11:52:16 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: muawiyah
Re: “The bill will undoubtedly create a category of people who are essentially slaves.”

Which is why the ACLU and La Raza will be in federal court 15 minutes after it passes.

Every “protection” that Rubio claims he has written into this bill will be reversed by a Democrat judge.

Every one of these 11 million illegals will be a registered Democrat voter by 2016.

This is exactly what happened to the “Reagan Amnesty” in 1986.

13 posted on 04/14/2013 11:52:22 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: MinuteGal

Leni,

Your post #6 rings true. Nothing takes the place of real world political experience such as yours, which (I suspect) is why you can such create such predictive posts.

Thanks for posting that one.


14 posted on 04/14/2013 11:56:01 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: muawiyah
As usual the inestimable ANN COULTER covers all there is to know about immigration. Watch as she uses this interview as a vehicle to do so...learn all the questions and all the right answers here as ANN takes apart a FUZZY Grover Norquist's off the charts points on immigration. LOAD YOUR GUNS HERE FOLKS, its fascinating and fun...

you can click to skip the opening commercial...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBorge8smc&feature=player_detailpage#t=23s
15 posted on 04/14/2013 12:00:42 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: zeestephen
Why don't they follow the border and immigration laws now?

Why should we believe they'll follow new laws?

Why do we allow laws to be selectively broken?

Why not just follow the Constitution and ensure the border is defended?

Don't we already have laws to do this? How have we survived this long without them?

Assuming we do have such laws, why did we stop enforcing these laws?

What is really happening here?

16 posted on 04/14/2013 12:00:46 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: conservativehistorian
I'm also depressed. My hope -- seriously -- is that the GOP lose the next election or two in landslides and that the country gets worse and worse and worse.

That's a terrible thing to hope for, isn't it?

But I see no other way for a third party to arise, and I certainly see no hope in rescuing the GOP. It's gone.

I've voted straight Republican in every election since 1978. Yup. I even voted for Romney. It's not my fault he lost. And in 2016, I will be sitting it out. And, no, it won't be my fault when a Democrat takes the White House (again). You can blame the GOP establishment for that. This Conservative is done with supporting those Liberals. They can lose their elections on their own from now on.

17 posted on 04/14/2013 12:01:27 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: MinuteGal; zeestephen; All

“His statement just shows to go ya that Marco is wrestling with a guilty conscience about a lot of terrible provisions in the proposed bill....and he’s covering himself as well as he can by pre-empting the outrage which will be directed right between his eyes when it’s revealed this coming week.

Don’t doubt me on this.”

I don’t think Marco is guilty about anything, especially using the SPLC’s talking points to destroy any of us who speak against this amnesty. And that includes the SPLC naming FR as a ‘hate site’. He has gathered the worst of the worst, the same men who have destroyed ALL immigration reform for 3 decades to write this amnesty...his chief of staff, Cesar Conda & Grover Norquist.

WHO IS CESAR CONDA??
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3007546/posts

[snip]Meet Cesar Conda, chief of staff, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., close associate and fellow amnesty pusher of Grover Norquist, who last week called all of us who want our borders secured, “Bitter enders”, He might as well have called us ‘Savages’.

Here is detailed some of the undermining of immigration law these two have accomplished over 3 decades, including working closely with Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute, Conda circulated a statement against Prop. 187 of California in the nineties. The race baiting they pulled on Alan Simpson when he tried to enforce the borders in the 90’s was nothing but disgusting.

Conda, an immigration lawyer, was Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief domestic policy adviser. After leaving there, Conda went to work for George Soros on the editorial advisory board of the Soros publication, The International Economy Magazine.

Even amnesty pushers on the left like Conda!

[snip] I think Cesar is the right man for the job,” said Frank Sharry, founder and executive director of the pro-immigration reform group America’s Voice. “Rubio is really lucky to have Cesar Conda as his chief of staff.” Conda...has been working on the issue since the early 1990s when he was part of a group of young, libertarian-minded, pro-immigration conservatives. His government experience runs deep: He worked for former Sen. Spencer Abraham, R-Mich., and was an aide to Vice President Dick Cheney. He also spent time in the private sector as a lobbyist and analyst for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and founded the Washington office of a consulting firm called Navigators Global.

Conda was also involved with The National Foundation for American Policy, a Newt Gingrich group. Don’t be fooled, Newt is all about amnesty and has always been!

” Started in 2003, the National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP) is a non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to public policy research on trade, immigration, and other issues of national importance. Its Advisory Board members include ....Cesar Conda.... and other prominent individuals.”

This statement sums up the Rubio/Conda relationship:

“The White House’s lawyer-friendly draft shows that it “has outsourced the formation of immigration policy to the American Immigration Lawyers Association,” said Camarota. Some of the eight senators also employ staffers who are trained immigration lawyers or who have lobbied for the immigration association before. In 2003, for example, Cesar Conda, Rubio’s chief of staff, lobbied the White House on behalf of the lawyers’ association....Given Sen. Rubio’s role in a smear campaign [using SPLC talking points] against pro-enforcement groups,” said Steve Camarota, the research director at the Center for Immigration Studies, “it does raise the question of how serious he is about enforcement.””

Conda worked as an advocate for the immigration lawyers’ association.

“As a founding partner of a lobbying firm, Navigators Global, he attended a 2003 meeting in the White House to promote a policy favored by the lawyers’ group, which stands to gain enormously from any law that expands or complicates immigration law.

In the late 1990s, Conda also worked as the legislative director for one-term GOP Sen. Spencer Abraham. In 2000, Abraham lost his Michigan Senate seat after NumbersUSA highlighted Abraham’s role in defeating a bipartisan immigration reform bill that would have curbed legal and illegal immigration.

During that 1996 immigration debate, Abraham opposed an employee-identification plan in the bill that would have required and helped employers reject applicants who were not allowed to legally work in the United States.”

Conda had a part in the expensive bank bail outs.

“At this lobbying outfit, Cesar Conda is one of the lobbyists on the Citigroup account. Previously, DC Navigators was one of AIG’s go-to firms—until the insurance company halted its lobbying efforts last fall under congressional pressure. AIG, which has received $182 billion from the government, including $40 billion in TARP funds, spent more than $9 million on lobbying in 2008”

Conda was a lobbyist for private prisons who love open borders and government $$$ to incarcerate illegal aliens.

“They also now have a paid lobbyist working in the office of a Republican Senator at the forefront of the immigration debate, in a state with major immigration issues. Take for example the chief of staff to young Republican superstar Marco Rubio, Cesar Conda. Conda still maintains ties to a powerful lobbying firm in Florida that has lobbied for the GEO Group. In fact, he still maintains partial ownership, and was paid between $50,000-$100,000 by the firm after he became Rubio’s chief of staff.. So he’s still being paid by companies like the GEO Group while working as the number-one guy to a US Senator. So the GEO Group has revenues of nearly $2 billion per year, much of which comes from the federal government as payment for detaining immigrants. It has spent more than $5 million in lobbying and political contributions in the past 8 years”

Remember when we warned the Tea Party about getting involved with Dick Armey’s Freedom works because he has always been pro amnesty??.....

– Cesar Conda is a senior fellow at Freedom Works and an editorial advisory board member of International Economy Magazine. He is a volunteer policy advisor to the Mitt Romney presidential campaign.

Conda actually states here that the Gang of 8 plan isn’t AMNESTY!! You need no more than that to know you are being CONNED BIG TIME!


18 posted on 04/14/2013 12:02:46 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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According to the Center for Immigration Studies, Rubio’s chief of staff, Cesar Conda, was a former lobbyist for the Association of Immigration Lawyers.
19 posted on 04/14/2013 12:15:04 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: atc23

Whether Rubio can legally run or not, I wouldn’t vote for him. He’s another politician pandering to “his people” and the hell with the rest of us. A conservative, he isn’t.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 12:22:17 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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