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Defense Department classifies Catholics, evangelicals as extremists
The Washington Times ^ | 4/5/2013 | Lachlan Markay

Posted on 04/06/2013 4:40:05 AM PDT by markomalley

The Defense Department came under fire Thursday for a U.S. Army Reserve presentation that classified Catholics and Evangelical Protestants as “extremist” religious groups alongside al Qaeda and the Ku Klux Klan.

The presentation detailed a number of extremist threats within the U.S. military, including white supremacist groups, street gangs, and religious sects.

The presentation identified seventeen religious organizations in a slide titled “religious extremism.” They include al Qaeda, Hamas, the Filipino separatist group Abu Sayyaf, and the Ku Klux Klan, which the slide identifies as a Christian organization.

“Religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world,” the slide explains, in language that closely resembles the text of a Wikipedia page on “extremism.”

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To: markomalley

Then there’s Director of Terrorism Studies at the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy Arie Perliger’s “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right.” In it he includes pro-life Americans as terrorists and cites the SPLC as credible authorities.

That’s quite a bit more than a “slide”.


81 posted on 04/06/2013 8:41:42 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: markomalley
Extremism is a complex phenomenon; it is defined as beliefs, attitudes, feelings, actions, or strategies of a character far removed from the "ordinary." Because "ordinary" is subjective, no religious group would label itself extreme or its doctrine "extremism." However, religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world; every religion has some followers that believe their beliefs, customes and traditions are the only "right way" and that all others are practicing their faith the "wrong way," seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others.

Sounds like liberalism. The basic premise here is that extremists are people that think they are right and everyone else is wrong. almost all religions and political groups meet this definition. Therefore virtually all people on the planet are extremists by this definition

82 posted on 04/06/2013 8:42:22 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: TexasFreeper2009
um... guys, calm down. The point was simply that extremists can exist in ANY group, which is a true statement.

The list as presented lists groups dedicated to extremism with two exceptions. It singles out two groups, Catholicism and Evangelical Christianity, both of which are religious groups that are not dedicated to extremism, (but they may have subgroups that are).

You don't understand that?

Don't think there are extremist evangelicals? obviously you haven't been watching the news about that church that pickets funerals.

You make my point. The list DIDN'T single out the "church that pickets funerals". It DID single out Evangelical Christianity.

And have that..."um"... stutter of yours checked out. I hear they can cure that now.

Okay?

:)

83 posted on 04/06/2013 8:45:01 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: markomalley

Atheists are the most rabid animals of religious zealots.


84 posted on 04/06/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: markomalley

So, according to the slide deck, soldiers cannot be Christians of any kind including Catholics because they are forbidden from participating, fund raising, etc. with “extremist organizations”.


85 posted on 04/06/2013 8:57:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: markomalley
Jesus's first words as he appears to the apostles in the Gospel this weekend. "Peace be with you."

What would Jesus be saying to these people? I know he would be fighting with words rather than swords, but we always need to remember that Christ won in the end -- even though it looked like he lost as he died on the Cross.

86 posted on 04/06/2013 8:58:23 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Headline definitely one to raise the most ‘fear’.

First line says it was from a ‘Reserve Unit Briefing’, kind of like the local ‘R’ dogcatcher agreeing with ‘Global warming’ and the headline reads “Republicans accept Global Warming”.

Would expect to find this in the Washington Post rather than Washington Times.


87 posted on 04/06/2013 9:01:30 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: markomalley

Ummm...they mispelled Mormon


88 posted on 04/06/2013 9:02:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Salvation

That would be the traditional Jewish greeting, “Shalom aleichem”. Usually the Jew being addressed will then contradict by saying, “Aleichem shalom!”


89 posted on 04/06/2013 9:05:59 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Isolated incident my ass. This is the third time (once by DHS and now twice by DoD) now that these assholes have labeled their political opponents as potential enemies of the state. The Question is why are the GOP members of the Armed Services Committee not making heads roll and firing these people?


90 posted on 04/06/2013 9:07:32 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: markomalley

This is what happens when you give a demoKKKrat president 8 years to reshape our governmnt and/or military to his own liking. Anybody who was too righteous or too holy to vote for Mitt Romney should take note.....


91 posted on 04/06/2013 9:10:52 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: markomalley

Offensive and ridiculous.


92 posted on 04/06/2013 9:20:04 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: markomalley; zot

Of course Catholics are extremists: look at the last two Popes they have elected, Benedict and Francis. Both reject modernizing Catholic faith, belief, doctrine and dogma to align it with modern revealations that Jesus was a married homosexual/bisexual male with illegitamate children. (sarc)

And Christian Evangelicals also hold those same extremist beliefs. (sarc)

Of course Islam, which kills homosexuals and females who look at a man they are not married to as adulters are just “doing their own cultural thing that modern secularists wont discriminate against.” NOT sarc


93 posted on 04/06/2013 9:20:44 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

When’s the last time an “extremist evangelical” flew a large airplane into a building or sawed someone’s head off?


94 posted on 04/06/2013 9:39:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: markomalley

I can’t help but appreciate the irony that my communist-made rifle may one day be forced into action against Communists in America.

Not something I want, but the road ahead is awful foggy right now. Best to be prepared for anything.


95 posted on 04/06/2013 9:45:37 AM PDT by EricT. (The Republican Party is a friend to conservatives the way Pakistan is an ally in the War On Terror.)
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To: darrellmaurina

The worst EO briefing I ever had to attend in the USNR was presented by a junior enlisted African immigrant with a thick accent that was very had to understand. It was standard multi-cultural tripe.


96 posted on 04/06/2013 10:00:13 AM PDT by EricT. (The Republican Party is a friend to conservatives the way Pakistan is an ally in the War On Terror.)
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To: left that other site

No. You are thinking of the Hutterites.


97 posted on 04/06/2013 10:06:10 AM PDT by JimSp
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To: JimSp

I thought that is what this inaccurate and specious collection of “radicals” was referring to.

Are the Hutteree” a separate group?


98 posted on 04/06/2013 10:13:28 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: JimSp

By The way, have you noticed the plethora of negative programs on the History Channel, The Learning Channel, NatGeo and others?

You know, the ones supposedly “revealing” the evil religious people, such as “Inside the Hutterites”, “Amish mafia”, “Breaking Amish”, “Cults in America”, etc?

And of course, the waves of “alternatives to the bible” series like, “Ancient Aliens”, “UFO Files”, “American Hauntings”, The Forbidden Books of the Bible”, “Celebrity Ghost Stories”, “Psychics in Law Enforcement”, “Finding Atlantis” etc etc etc.

When they finally put on a series that is actually about the Bible, the ratings go through the roof. So, IMNSHO, there is an agenda here, and it’s not money or ratings. If it were, there would be more series like the Bible and less trying to discredit it.

Just Sayin’.


99 posted on 04/06/2013 10:22:12 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: markomalley

Well at least we know Washington is starting to fear the population enough to target the vast majority of Americans as “Extremist”.

Of course this is troubling and were I a military officer once i got done laughing Id start thinking about how i couldn’t follow an order to open fire on my own people. But i would tell no one less I never be placed in the situation to refuse.


100 posted on 04/06/2013 10:36:37 AM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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