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Extreme poverty is also a violation of human rights, says Argentinean cardinal (New Pope)
Catholic News Agency ^ | Oct 1, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 03/14/2013 6:19:02 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

The Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, has called for an ethical response to solve the problem of social debt, saying that, not only do terrorism, repression and murder violate human rights, but also extreme poverty and the “unjust economic structures that give rise to great inequalities.”

Social debt is “immoral, unjust and illegitimate,” the cardinal said, emphasizing that this is especially true when it occurs “in a nation that has the objective conditions for avoiding or correcting such harm.” “Unfortunately,” he noted, it seems that those same countries “opt for exacerbating inequalities even more.”

Argentineans have the duty “to work to change the structural causes and personal or corporate attitudes that give rise to this situation (of poverty), and through dialogue reach agreements that allow us to transform this painful reality we refer to when we speak about social debt,” the prelate said.

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To: from occupied ga

The true social justice mission of the church is inextricably tied to the concept of subsidiarity.

Subsidiarity insists that the smallest or most local organization that can address a problem should address a problem.

Therefore, an individual is obligated to help himself, his family, his neighbor. The church is organized throughout the world on a local level to serve the poor, educate children, build hospitals and provide ministry programs for all.

There is very little in terms of helping the poor that required a large federal government. That is Catholic teaching, although the concept is not properly promoted by many in the media and more unfortunately by many in the church.


41 posted on 03/14/2013 7:06:03 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: edcoil

Right. Even private contributions to the needy (like tsunami victims) finds its way into the wrong hands.

In any case, America and Americans are and have ALWAYS been more than generous.

No other nation on earth has voluntarily given such a bounty of aid to the sick, needy, oppressed, etc. It never ends.

At the same time (and moreso lately), these same people, AND their leadership never miss an opportunity to bash the US.

Some of the countries most exceedingly Anti-American, would not even appear on a MAP if not for the assistance and continuing support of the US... they constantly receive material, political and financial assistance from the US...often times with NO expectation of repayment !!

They don’t need to LOVE us but some basic respect for who we are and what we do for them would be nice.


42 posted on 03/14/2013 7:06:46 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Rich21IE; LucianOfSamasota
You’re the only person I know besides myself to point out the problem of Real Property Record Titles systems in the rest of the world.

The economist Hernando de Soto wrote about this. I have his book "The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else" at home.

43 posted on 03/14/2013 7:12:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: rwilson99; LucianOfSamasota

Thanks for posting. I was about to do the same, to answer Lucian’s question in post 1, but you beat me to it.

“Social justice”, is a requirement of all Catholics (all human beings I’d say) but it is sadly perverted by the leftists in both the US media and the US Church.

Subsidiarity is the true way Catholics (and humans in general) should promote social justice, as rwilson99 explained in post 41.

And I’d dare to say its how the good Cardinal then, now Pope Francis, approaches the problem.


44 posted on 03/14/2013 7:23:40 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: rwilson99
The true social justice mission of the church is inextricably tied to the concept of subsidiarity.

Well we'll see if that's how he interprets it. If you read the material on the ACCB web site on "social justice" it appears interchangeable with the liberal Democrat platform. Maybe that will change. I'm not holding my breath.

45 posted on 03/14/2013 7:24:16 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rwilson99

The Catjolic church owns over 1/4 of the worlds fine art or so we were (proudly) told on a tour of St. Peters. Yet they have some of the most crushingly poor congregations that send THEM money I suggest the new pope do something about the log in his own eye before lecturing the rest of the world how to care for the poor. I’m not Catholic bashing, but I have often wondered how the Catholic church reconciles it’s great wealth and opulence with the poverty of some of it’s people, particularly when Chridt said “the Som of Man has nowhere to lay His head”. And now the new pope wants to lecture us how to care for the poor?


46 posted on 03/14/2013 7:25:43 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Great! A world communist pope to go hand in hand with the communist US President!


47 posted on 03/14/2013 7:27:34 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Rich21IE

I thought there was an economist who either won a Nobel Prize, or was nominated for one, who wrote a paper or book on the relationship between property rights and the economic prosperity, or lack thereof, of a country. However, I can’t seem to find the article.


48 posted on 03/14/2013 7:33:21 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: yldstrk

There are criminals whose crimes are so horrible, redemption is not possible for them.

But pastoral ministry includes reaching to lost souls who want to change their ways. Christian teaching after all says, hate the sin but forgive he who sins.


49 posted on 03/14/2013 7:33:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mom MD

The Church saved my life. I was treated in a Catholic hospital.

So yes, the Church is the world’s largest non-profit education and health care provider.


50 posted on 03/14/2013 7:35:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PotatoChop

Oh Please. Pointing out that there are poor people in the world and their situation should improve does not make one a Communist.....he doesn’t get into the “how”.

In fact, one of the most damning aspects of Communism, or big government in general, is that it relieves the individual from taking responsibility for the poverty around them. If I am paying 50% of my wages in taxes, it sure doesn’t leave much left to help the poor, and in fact, big government tends to discourage private charity, because they want to have the monopoly on charity, to enhance their power over the individual.


51 posted on 03/14/2013 7:38:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Make your own way in this world or lie down and die!!!


52 posted on 03/14/2013 7:45:27 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“Social debt is “immoral, unjust and illegitimate,”

Send my check so y’all can feel good about yourselves again and make it a big check so the feeling lasts.


53 posted on 03/14/2013 7:47:43 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: goldstategop
But many on the Right act as if we should punish the poor and those who are imprisoned rather than work to help them transform themselves.

I don't disagree with the way your post reads, nor the points you make. But wouldn't you agree that the poor need to meet us halfway? Certainly in this country, the key elements that separate those in poverty from becoming financially independent: a solid education, a healthy lifestyle, hard work, thriftiness, perserverance, and a general avoidance of bad choices--drugs, gangs, crime. Promiscuity that leads to unwed motherhood. Fatherless children.

54 posted on 03/14/2013 7:52:09 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: goldstategop

My kids were born in Catholic hospitals and my husband works in one. That is still not the point. The question is when the Catholic church owns an incredible amount of the worlds wealth yet continues to accept $ from the poorest areas in the world, how does the pope lecture us how to care for the poor? Does he not see the hypocrisy in his position? I personally don’t care how much wealth the Vatican owns - they have to answer only to Christ for what they do with it. I just find the contradictions stunning.


55 posted on 03/14/2013 7:56:38 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: iacovatx

Hear hear! Short, to the point, outstanding post.


56 posted on 03/14/2013 8:03:28 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed and unbridled at that.


57 posted on 03/14/2013 8:06:56 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: goldstategop

But many on the Right act as if we should punish the poor....

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Yes, that is true. But I think it is a knee-jerk reaction to what often gets defined as poor in our country and to the wrong methods our government uses in what it claims is a way to solve poverty.


58 posted on 03/14/2013 8:11:07 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: muawiyah
A big issue throughout much of Latin America and the Third World is a question of deeds to property ~ the laws don't protect the poor, and the governments do not enforce what rights they have to property. In the United States we have laws that are enforced. They are revolutionary ~ and we think that's how things ought to be.

The issue in the Third World is that the oligarchies work to prevent "outsiders" from making money, by making successful business creation a monopoly of the "insiders".

Corruption plays an important role. If you are not an insider, you will have an endless stream of bureaucrats, regulators, and inspectors harassing you for bribes, which drains funds from a start-up, and hampers success. You can also forget about government contracts (or you may get the contract, but have difficulty getting paid).

Conversely, if you are a well-connected insider, the bureaucrats know better than to demand bribes, you are promptly paid, and you are likely to be successful even if you're not that bright.

The central objective of the oligarchy is preventing smart and energetic outsiders from rising. They don't want a middle-class to compete with them. They want a mass of poor people to supply them with servants and mistresses.

59 posted on 03/14/2013 8:13:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: goldstategop

If he repents


60 posted on 03/14/2013 8:24:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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