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New Pope One of 'God's Marines'
Fairfax Media ^ | March 13 2013 | staff

Posted on 03/13/2013 2:20:35 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

One of "God's Marines" is now Pope, with Argentine Jorge Mario Bergoglio today becoming the first Jesuit elected to lead the world's Catholics.

Jesuits are labelled "God's Marines" or Catholic ''storm troopers'', in recognition of their 16th-century founder Ignatius of Loyola, who had a military background.

The Society of Jesus (more commonly known as Jesuits) demands four vows: poverty, chastity, obedience to Christ, and obedience to the Pope.

Its purpose is the propagation of the Catholic faith by any means possible.

A Spanish nobleman, Ignatius of Loyola was set on a career as a professional soldier, until a cannonball shattered one of his legs in 1521.

During his recovery he read religious books, fasted and prayed, then decided to become a soldier of Christ.

The Jesuits' first focus was the conversion of Muslims, then halting the spread of Protestantism.

With their military-style training, the Jesuits were feared as the "storm troopers" of the Roman Catholic Church, and led armies which recaptured large areas for it.

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To: JCBreckenridge

It would start to get REALLY interesting if this new pope started an active policy of excommunicating pro-abortion “Catholic” politicians.


41 posted on 03/14/2013 5:24:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Shadow44

LOL. The Benedictans, Franciscans, Dominicans, and Jesuits were having a big meeting that went well into the middle of the night. Suddenly all the lights went out in the meeting room. The Benedictans immediately started chanting Psalms, the Franciscans took out their guitars and sang songs praising Creation, and the Dominicans began preaching about the metaphysics of light and darkness; meanwhile the Jesuits went to the basement, found the fuse box, and reset the breaker.


42 posted on 03/14/2013 5:30:54 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Shadow44
Alright - this one's my favorite:

A man has three sons who entered three different religious orders: the oldest became a Dominican, the second a Franciscan, and the youngest a Jesuit. On his deathbed, the father tells his sons, "I know you all have vows of poverty, but as a sign of your love for me, I want each of you to place one thousand dollars into my casket to be buried with me."

On the day of the funeral, the Dominican son steps up, places $1000 in the casket, and says, "This seems like a waste of money, since you can't take it with you, Dad. But with the special permission of my superiors, I'm doing as you requested, as a sign of my love."

Next, the Franciscan son approaches the casket and says, "You know I love you, Dad, but the needs of the poor are so great, I just can't let $1000 be buried with you. I hope you understand, now that you are in heaven. Please forgive me."

Finally, the Jesuit son comes forward and says to his brother, "Don't worry, Frank. I'll pay your share." Then he reaches into the casket, takes the cash left by his eldest brother, and puts in a check for $3000.

43 posted on 03/14/2013 5:38:55 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: icwhatudo

Well, I hope you’re right, but the Jesuits have been generally leftist for a good many decades now.


44 posted on 03/14/2013 5:49:20 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Don't kid yourself - there are plenty of liberal Jesuits, although the younger ones I've met have not only been brilliant (all the Jesuits are very smart) but quite orthodox. Several of my children have been Jesuit trained. A couple of my sons went to St. Joseph's Prep for high school. Several of them went to St. Joe's University, which was definitely the most orthodox of all the Jesuit places at which my kids have studied. My two daughters went to Boston College which had both liberal and conservative Jesuits, although the vast majority of the faculty were raging libs.

Unlike many Catholic my age, I can't say that Jesuit training is the best. We had some scary years with our daughters when we thought they were lost to the Faith forever. However, what I can say proudly is that all my Jesuit trained children are practing Catholics today.

45 posted on 03/14/2013 5:54:37 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired

Good one.


46 posted on 03/14/2013 5:57:11 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“In Latin America, Jesuits have had significant influence in the development of liberation theology, which has been controversial with Catholic theologians.”

Controversial? It’s godless Marxism wrapped up in a Christian sounding veneer. Its what Jeremiah Wright espouses @ Trinity. Its Obama’s version of ‘Christianity’.

http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/ratzinger/liberationtheol.htm


47 posted on 03/14/2013 6:03:14 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: izzatzo; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; ...

izzatzo wrote:

“If true, just more socialism from the hallowed halls of the Vatican, we don’t need it. I hope BI is incorrect.”

The words have different meanings. Pope Francis has fought the socialist government of his former homeland tooth and nail. He has written that he believes “social justice” is an interior change of heart - a conversion of soul - that will lead to a change in the external. He is not talking politics or economics, he is talking about The Good News of the Gospel. IIRC. YMMV.


48 posted on 03/14/2013 6:10:28 AM PDT by narses
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“In Latin America, Jesuits have had significant influence in the development of liberation theology, which has been controversial with Catholic theologians.”

The Jesuits, indeed, were at the center of Liberation Theology in Latin America.

My recollection is that this caused the Pope at the time (~1970’s) to remove the Superior General of the Society of Jesus (Father Pedro Arrupe, and also to direct the Jesuits to correct their error and re-align their teachings about Social Justice (Social Justice means something very different in the context of Catholic theology than is does to the secular leftists).

I was subsequently told by a Jesuit theologian that I know that the Society of Jesus themselves asked the Pope to take these actions against Arrupe and the Liberation Theology proponents within their order.


49 posted on 03/14/2013 6:41:21 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: MrB
It would start to get REALLY interesting if this new pope started an active policy of excommunicating pro-abortion “Catholic” politicians

That would conflict with "social justice".

50 posted on 03/14/2013 7:06:09 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Wordkraft

Pretty good analogy. I can remember be ripped to shreds when I foolishly tried to argue with a Jesuit. Big, big emphasis on education.


51 posted on 03/14/2013 7:14:41 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: izzatzo

There are views of “social justice” based on Marxism, and there are views of “social justice” truly based on the Gospel. Since he is an ardent opponent of liberation theology and a supporter of Communion and Liberation (which is politically conservative) he appears to support good old fashioned Christian charity as the basis of social justice, not Marxist class envy and redistribution of wealth.


52 posted on 03/14/2013 7:27:30 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
There are views of “social justice” based on Marxism, and there are views of “social justice” truly based on the Gospel. Since he is an ardent opponent of liberation theology and a supporter of Communion and Liberation (which is politically conservative) he appears to support good old fashioned Christian charity as the basis of social justice, not Marxist class envy and redistribution of wealth.

THIS!

BTW: All the above B.S. is irrelavent! I am surprised that so many conservatives on this site will take up the bad habit of labeling an individual because of bad past practices other than their own. That's a liberal trait. Anyone who knows their history knows that corruption and sin and evil has existed in in various institutions at every level. What does that have to do with the individual today? My hopes are Pope Francis will continue to walk in the same humble path he has for the last 50 years.

Deacon Francis

53 posted on 03/14/2013 8:31:12 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Sherman Logan

“...The original storm troopers...”

They were called Stosstruppen.

They were armed with the early MP18 submachine guns, Lugers with 32-round snailtrommeln (Drum magazines), C96 Schnellfuer Broomhandle Mauser pistols, sharpened shovels, etc, and specialized in raiding the Brit and French trench lines, exploiting weak spots in the lines, and causing general havoc and chaos once they broke through. They were “Special Ops” guys. Moved fast, hit hard, and raised hell.

Good catch, Sherman. Thanks for bringing that up.


54 posted on 03/14/2013 8:44:22 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“...Jesuits are labelled “God’s Marines”..”

I’m liking it....


55 posted on 03/14/2013 8:45:17 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“...Jerry ‘Moonbeam’ Brown is a Jesuit...”

No, Jerry’s a Lib Moonbat first and foremost, and that overshadows any and everything he may have been before... like with most libs.

They’re Liberal first, good little party aparatchniki... that’s where their loyalties lay.


56 posted on 03/14/2013 8:49:03 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Turns out the Stosstruppen were a good deal more fragile than tanks, and a lot harder to replace. A major reason the Allies eventually won.


57 posted on 03/14/2013 8:51:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Yeah, flesh and blood versus steel...pretty much a foregone conclusion as to that outcome.


58 posted on 03/14/2013 8:56:07 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: old and tired
ha! Thats a good one.

My priest told me this one: What are the two great mysteries that even God does not know the answer to?

Exactly how many orders of Franciscans there are and how much money the Jesuits have!

59 posted on 03/14/2013 9:12:11 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Yes, I have learned more about him today, and he seems to be a very good selection for Catholicism. We hear more about “social justice” these days in the context of Marxism than Christian activities.


60 posted on 03/14/2013 2:25:17 PM PDT by izzatzo (NO MORE BUSHES!)
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