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Chinese Physicists Measure Speed of “Spooky Action At a Distance”
Physics arXiv Blog ^ | March 7, 2013 | Physics arXiv Blog

Posted on 03/07/2013 11:41:49 PM PST by Bobalu

Einstein railed against the possibility of spooky action at a distance because it violates relativity. Now Chinese physicists have clocked it traveling more than four orders of magnitude faster than light

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KEYWORDS: china; quantum; science; stringtheory
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Fascinating!


1 posted on 03/07/2013 11:41:51 PM PST by Bobalu
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To: Hardraade

Ummmm.....
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Or is it 8 now with the Vostok bacterium?
Wondering why this is coming in a bunch like this. Usually there are several years or at lest months in between. Now all this in a matter of weeks. Why the speed up? What is going on?


2 posted on 03/07/2013 11:57:14 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Bobalu

Well, if you want space travel...


3 posted on 03/07/2013 11:57:26 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

At 4Xs the speed of light it will still take 15k years to get from one side of the galaxy to the other.


4 posted on 03/08/2013 12:11:02 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Bobalu

It’s not a speed, it’s an acceleration. And it is probably the same as the Speed of Gravity.

If E=MC^2, and if Gravity (G) is equal to the Energy of a Mass (i.e. G=E/M), then G=C^2.

Any bets that “spooky action at a distance” turns out to also be the acceleration (not speed!) C^2?!


5 posted on 03/08/2013 12:17:54 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Bobalu

Physicist John Bell proved such faster than light connections several decades ago.
The book “Quantum Reality,” written by Nick Herbert in 1985, gives a thorough description of Bell’s Theorem. According to Herbert, the connection between entangled atomic particles is “unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate.” IOW, Herbert goes with the “instantaneous” connection not the four orders of magnitude (admittedly a baseline) discussed in the article.
It’s not spooky because all quantum particles/waves have undergone phase entanglement. They are related.
Thus, the universe is non-local, and on at least some level (deep reality, perhaps,) we are all connected with each other and everything else.
Yes, it is fascinating, and because it is counter intuitive, it is difficult to understand.
I can’t claim that I get it.


6 posted on 03/08/2013 12:22:31 AM PST by BIV (typical white person)
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To: TigersEye

“4 orders of magnitude” <> 4x, but
(4(10)^4)C


7 posted on 03/08/2013 12:24:16 AM PST by patton (Tinker toys, watches, and shiny things - we all sell rocks for a living.)
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To: Southack

34.6 trillion miles a second! Wow I want one. lol


8 posted on 03/08/2013 12:26:06 AM PST by jpsb
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To: BIV

I love the stuff.
Of course, I don’t understand it either..who does!?

It’s as if the universe was actually just data and we are trying to make sense of it as if it were actually physical and real... no time, space, mass, speed or even rules.
Perhaps it’s all just in the mind of God or something... maybe we are characters in a great dream.


9 posted on 03/08/2013 12:28:02 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu
What? They have stolen my concept of the Spooky Interferometer!


10 posted on 03/08/2013 12:33:50 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: TigersEye

Heh, what if we are just so ignorant today that all of this becomes a joke many years from now? Maybe all of this our math is just not wrong but way wrong. What if our ideas about space travel are so backward that it becomes just another wives tale (in the future of course). Maybe our whole perception of space and distances is just wrong!

Just a bit of food for thought...heh. The future holds many strange and wonderful things...


11 posted on 03/08/2013 12:42:53 AM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: TigersEye
At 4Xs the speed of light it will still take 15k years to get from one side of the galaxy to the other.

Four orders of magnitude is not 4X.
1 -> 10 is 1 order of magnitude.
1 -> 100 is two orders.
1 -> 1,000 is three.
1 -> 10,000 is four.

So that's ten thousand times the speed of light... (1 year) / 10,000 = 52.5948766 minutes, or about an hour.

The 25 nearest stars to our solar system lie in a range of 4.2 to 11.7 light years; so if we could travel that speed, we could get there in less than 12 hours.

12 posted on 03/08/2013 12:48:43 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MestaMachine

Catchup...

Btw, the scum is like an antheap on fire:

http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/klomsaets-case-questions-questions/

Won his case, but the State refuses. More dynamite in the water, please ;).


13 posted on 03/08/2013 12:55:08 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: TigersEye

An order of magnitude is 10 and a fourth order of magnitude is 10,000


14 posted on 03/08/2013 1:16:36 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: Bobalu
They say the results are clear but do not measure the speed of spooky action directly. Instead, the results place a lower bound on how fast it must be. The answer is that it is at least four orders of magnitude faster than light, and may still turn out to be instantaneous, as quantum mechanics predicts.

I added the boldface. So spooky action at a distance is at least 10,000 times faster than light, and it may be instantaneous.

Amazing stuff.

15 posted on 03/08/2013 1:39:24 AM PST by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives.)
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To: OneWingedShark

In other words this is “Warp 4” in Star Trek speak


16 posted on 03/08/2013 2:23:18 AM PST by Fai Mao
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To: Deagle

Linear space travel...that’s for primitive societies. Same with time; it’s just Man’s perception. One day you earthlings will understand...lol


17 posted on 03/08/2013 2:59:25 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: BIV
Entanglement works not only over separated space but also over separated time. It's possible to not only communicate and modify objects at a distance, but also communicate and change both the past and future. Einstein said the past, present, and future occur simultaneously. It appears time and space as we perceive them are illusions and we are somehow part of a timeless spaceless eternity. It's spooky stuff.
18 posted on 03/08/2013 3:46:32 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Bobalu

All of you are nuts. The universe is flat.


19 posted on 03/08/2013 3:51:53 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: jsanders2001; Quix
Linear space travel...that’s for primitive societies. Same with time; it’s just Man’s perception. One day you earthlings will understand...lol

Maybe. I want to hear what Quix has to say about it...

20 posted on 03/08/2013 4:06:12 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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