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New York Army Vet Facing 7 Years in Prison Over Empty Ammo Magazines
http://www.theblaze.com ^ | february 23, 2013 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 02/24/2013 5:47:16 AM PST by lowbridge

An Army veteran in New York is facing up to seven years in prison for possessing five empty 30-round ammunition magazines.

Nate Haddad told WGRZ-TV he was parked on a road last month waiting to meet someone interested in buying them off him when police approached. According to the station, the magazines were for an AR-15 rifle, the same type of weapon Haddad once carried in combat. Magazines over 10 rounds have been illegal in New York since 1994, unless they were manufactured before the law went into effect. Haddad says he thought his were legal, until he found out otherwise.

“I certainly did not think I was committing a felony crime by having these,” Haddad told WGRZ. “My understanding of what I had in my possession was that it was manufactured before 1994, but the arresting officers told me otherwise after I showed them the magazines that I had in my possession.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; newyork; secondamendment
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To: KeyLargo
Consultations between Nathan’s attorney Seth Buchman and a team of attorneys specializing in the 2nd Amendment and Constitutional law have already occurred.
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How much is this costing Nathan in money? How much in emotional anxiety and disruption to his life?

The people who do this are pigs right out of the pages of Animal Farm.

21 posted on 02/24/2013 6:21:12 AM PST by wintertime
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To: napscoordinator


22 posted on 02/24/2013 6:22:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: wintertime

Haven’t read Animal Farm. In know I need to.

Is this from where the moniker “Pigs” comes, in referring to police?


23 posted on 02/24/2013 6:23:19 AM PST by stanne
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To: wintertime

Ayn Rand certainly understood it.


24 posted on 02/24/2013 6:24:15 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: wintertime
Everyone should have the Sportsman channel.
25 posted on 02/24/2013 6:25:22 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: wintertime

Certainly New York is making an example of this man to frighten others into accepting their latest gun laws.

They love this.


26 posted on 02/24/2013 6:26:56 AM PST by Venturer
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To: KeyLargo
-- If he were to plead guilty to misdemeanors his arrest record will still show that he was arrested for Felonies. --

The arrest is going to persist unless it is expunged, and even then, I think there are circumstances where a person is obliged to divulge events that would not surface in a review of government records.

My general point is that the police, the prosecutor and the courts will work in unison to find Haddad guilty. None of those entities has a favorable view of the right to keep and bear arms.

27 posted on 02/24/2013 6:27:09 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: stanne

I don’t know. I do know it was common for the Marxist revolutionaries in the U.S. ( The Bill Ayers types) to call the police pigs.


28 posted on 02/24/2013 6:27:43 AM PST by wintertime
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, my first thought was that he should have just told the police that he was David Gregory.
Would have been no foul and he’d of gotten a pass.


29 posted on 02/24/2013 6:27:51 AM PST by skimbell
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To: OldEagle

I hate to keep posting on this thread, but the cop was apparently the buyer. Or am I letting my imagination run wild?


30 posted on 02/24/2013 6:29:05 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: KeyLargo

It looks more and more like our preditory governments want to make felons of every citizen. That way they can utter: bring in the usual band of suspects, whenever they want to do just that. These are definitely the current dark ages of American history.


32 posted on 02/24/2013 6:30:51 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: OldEagle
And how would the arresting officer know when they were manufactured?? Sounds like trial by cop.

I have a feeling that charges will be dropped because the police will have inadvertently misplaced the magazines and are unable to prove they were illegal.

33 posted on 02/24/2013 6:33:12 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: hunosehu

You said sting.....

What if the cop and Haddad were in collusion to have an arrest and a trial to have the law thrown out?

The law is not the law if it violates the right to keep and bear arms. To kep arms, it is necessary to buy arms.


34 posted on 02/24/2013 6:33:25 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: BCW

People who want to live free and own what ever magazine they want and own what ever legally weapon they want - should not live in NY, CA, MA, etc...but pick a state that does not infringe on their rights.
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Decent citizens shouldn’t visit there. Businesses and organizations that have yearly conventions shouldn’t schedule them in these places.


35 posted on 02/24/2013 6:33:47 AM PST by wintertime
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To: lowbridge
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36 posted on 02/24/2013 6:34:16 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Mouton

1/3 of US Returning Military Veterans Considered Mentally Unstable by the Government

The newest disorder being used as a reason to detain veterans is ODD or Oppositional Defiance Disorder. ODD is described as a mental disease wherein free thinkers, civil disobedience supporters, non-conformists, and those who question authority and are seen as being hostile toward the government are labeled mentally ill.

Psychiatrics claim that sufferers have “a recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant, disobedient, and hostile behavior toward authority figures that persists for at least 6 months” which includes:

• Persistent stubbornness
• Resistance to directions
• Unwillingness to go along with the crowd
• Deliberately annoying others
• Testing limits by ignoring orders

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2012/08/28/13-of-us-returning-military-veterans-considered-mentally-unstable-by-the-government/


37 posted on 02/24/2013 6:38:13 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: BCW
...might not be able to vote them out - but it doesn’t mean you can’t move out!
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That is already happening. Look at Boeing:

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/boeings-decision-to-move-to-south-carolina-has-turned-into-a-legal-nightmare/Content?oid=3461150

(Boeing's decision to move to South Carolina has turned into a legal nightmare )

38 posted on 02/24/2013 6:39:37 AM PST by wintertime
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To: stanne
Is this from where the moniker “Pigs” comes, in referring to police?

No. In 'Animal Farm' the pigs become elites. All other animals toil to support them. The pigs were the object of the phrase from the book "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others."

I think it was during the Spanish Civil War that Republican propagandists coined "Fascist Pigs" to refer to their nationalist enemies. The American left probable adopted it from them.

'Animal Farm' is well worth reading.

39 posted on 02/24/2013 6:42:00 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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