Posted on 02/22/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by US Navy Vet
I will be losing 1 day a week with no pay(16 hours per a 2 week pay period).
You’d have to ask him what the point of the post was, but I can tell you neither one of us is crying.
For my part, although I know we’re just pawns in a bigger game, I accept what’s coming without complaint. I’ll use the time off to do some community service or catch up on neglected household projects, and adjust my budget accordingly.
Alot of federal workers are whining (you should hear it at my place, it’s a veritable symphony) but I’m not and neither is Navy.
Could you please further define “double dippers”? I would not like to assume that you are referring to the veterans who EARNED their pensions by working longer hours in more extreme conditions with fewer rights than most of their fellow Americans under a contract that promised deferred compensation? It would also be premature of me to assume that you are somehow implying that almost every able bodied American with a high school diploma and a clean police record did not have the same opportunity to enter into this contract? After all, DoD, like every employer, only compensates its employees at the bare minimum level to fill fulfill its requirements. Veterans in every sense of the word, only did what others CHOSE not to do.
Furloughs are a one-time thing. They don’t save money over the long haul. What they need to do is instead of furloughing 800,000, fire 100,000. That way, they’d save money every year.
And the 100,000 could go get other jobs. How is a person who works 4 days a week supposed to get another job.
Now me, I would actually not mind getting put on a 4-day-a-week schedule for a while. I’ve even thought about switching to part-time work.
The Obama administration is looking to make this as hard as possible on the people they are screwing. For example, wouldn’t you love to have the choice of whether to take your furlough as a 2-week time off, so you could vacation? And what different would it make to the government whether you just took your vacation without pay instead of with pay. They’d still save the same amount of money.
But no, Obama WANTS you to suffer. That’s why he won’t propose different cuts that might be less onerous. He’d rather make really bad cuts, than less bad cuts. Because what he really wants is for PRIVATE CITIZENS to suffer, rather than his government. That is his position — that in the entire government, there is not $70 billion that could be cut. So he needs the rest of us to pay more.
Actually, this isn’t a normal time. If you look at who they are targetting, it is people who would tend to be conservatives — the civilians who choose to work for our military.
You think Obama isn’t loving this? What you WON’T see is a single teacher getting furloughed.
And guess what — the ZOO EMPLOYEES at the national zoo are considered ‘essential government employees’ and are NOT being furloughed.
Because, you know, we have to keep feeding the tigers.
Agreed
What really gets me is that they told us we are not allowed to work (telework) on our furlough days even if we are willing to do it voluntarily for no pay. I do not like letting a full day go by without being able to get in and process my work. There are people in the field that depend on us getting them what they need when they need it and sometimes a day delay is a pretty big deal.
“Correction, it is NOT a CUT. It is a reduction in the rate of growth (you remember baseline budgeting). Even after the sequester is fully implemented, we will end up spending more in 2013 than we did in 2012. It is NOT a freaking CUT!!!
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With all due respect, people who having been saying this are flat out wrong. DOD has been operating on continuing resolutions for years now. Each of these is 6 months long (2 per fiscal year). For the first half of FY 2013 we have been operating at FY 12 expenditure levels and now are being told that for all FY13 our expenditures must be at 2010 levels. So not only do we have to cut for the second half of FY13, we must make additional cuts to “give back” the 2012 level money that was already spent in the first half of FY13.
This whole “there are no real cuts happening” storyline is pure BS.
I don't think it's the tigers so much so as the leeches.
The sequester didn’t cut. It’s the continuing resolution that has cut.
If it wasn’t for the continuing resolution, the sequester wouldn’t be a cut, and wouldn’t be causing trouble.
The republicans wouldn’t have cut defense in the CR, the democrats forced it as payment for an agreement.
The republicans just do a bad job of pointing out how all these choices are the democrat choices.
Think of it this way: The pay reduction will probably put you in the situation as a perosn with an equivilent position in the provate sector, except that the person in the private sector has to work a lot more hours to make the same salary.
You are partially correct and incorrect.
There is no Continuing Resolution for the 2nd half of FY13 yet. Therefore the Sequester is what is dictating that there be actual cuts to defense programs and personnel.
My only point is that people like Rush (who I normally think is great) saying that there are no cuts because of sequester and any furloughs etc. are just scare tactics, are just plain wrong and really should get the facts before they open their mouths.
No offense, but I was talking about overall federal spending. How the Feds decide to spend it is not within the control of us peons. My statement still stands as fact. In 2013 the federal government will spend slightly more than what was spent in 2012. If the idiots in Washington simply stopped giving away money to foreign governments, selectively reduced the number of government employees through attrition only, stopped the giveaways to senseless unconsitutional spending (global warming, green energy, grants to study stupid crap like the one-eyed green lizard, and actually put people in jail for fraud/abuse along with restitution, then they could focus on entitlements. Next thing you know, there would be a budget surplus in no time.
For the record, I am also a federal worker, and we have it writing that the furlough days WILL NOT BE PAID BACK! So to all of you out there who say we'll get the money back, you're wrong, dead wrong.
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