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Trump, Levin Right About Rove
Big Government ^ | 2/16/13 | David Bossie

Posted on 02/16/2013 7:36:15 AM PST by Lakeshark

If you’re a donor or potential donor to Karl Rove’s group American Crossroads, I recommend you listen to Mark Levin’s recent interview with Donald Trump, because they disclosed some long overdue truths that needed to be said.

Trump and Levin made several points that donors, the media, and the political class can no longer ignore and frankly should have picked up on long ago. When you see the facts all laid out, you’ll be asking yourself the same question as Levin: “I would say to the wealthy donors out there, why do you keep donating to him?”

The first point Trump makes is exhibit one in the case against Rove and something people should never, ever forget: “You know it was really Karl Rove who gave us Obama.” Mr. Trump is exactly right. The next time someone says Karl Rove is a political genius, just remember that his disastrous decisions during the Bush Administration paved the way for President Obama’s election, Obamacare’s implementation, and our unsustainable $16 trillion national debt.

The truth is that the only times in politics when the political pendulum swings that far in either direction is when things get really, really awful under the sitting president. What largely caused that political situation was Karl Rove’s wrongheaded advice to George W. Bush. Let’s also be honest about Rove being the architect of Bush’s two victories. Barely beating atrocious candidates like Al Gore and John Kerry is not exactly a heavy lift or something to brag about, because he nearly let both get away.

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TokyoRove, the man who gave us the idea that we shouldn't say anything about how crazy the dems are or be critical of Obama because it might offend the moderates........

We can't get rid of him fast enough.

1 posted on 02/16/2013 7:36:25 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Enthusiastic bump!

Get rid of Rove, or find an alternative to the GOP.

Now.


2 posted on 02/16/2013 7:39:41 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Lakeshark
just remember that his disastrous decisions during the Bush Administration paved the way for President Obama’s election

Bush's fault.

You're damned right it is!

3 posted on 02/16/2013 7:45:33 AM PST by DManA
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To: Lakeshark

Tokyo seems to be about hanging on to the gravy train he built for himself.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 7:46:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Lakeshark

Sarah Palin’s line “Good old boys” running politics in Washington DC


5 posted on 02/16/2013 7:48:16 AM PST by YukonGreen
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To: Lakeshark

Rove’s attempts to alter/improve American politics probably began its journey on the right path. But, like many Republicans who began their journey in the right direction, he came to a fork in the road and made the wrong turn. That is one of the dangers in American politics and the same thing could eventually happen to the Patriot movement unless a great deal of “honest” leadership is exercised.


6 posted on 02/16/2013 7:55:11 AM PST by davisfh
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The only way to get rid of Rove and the other RINOs is to get involved within the party itself and change things. A third party should be our last resort.


7 posted on 02/16/2013 7:57:36 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Lakeshark
Rove: From Magnificent Bastard to just ...
8 posted on 02/16/2013 7:57:49 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Lakeshark
What largely caused that political situation was Karl Rove’s wrongheaded advice to George W. Bush.

I think the Bush royal family has always stood for Big Government. W picked a political adviser who was compatible.

9 posted on 02/16/2013 8:01:45 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: YukonGreen
Not much good about it:

The third point Trump made was perhaps the most devastating: “They took $400 million of money that people put up to fight and they made the worst ads I’ve ever seen.” The hundreds of millions in television ads Crossroads ran during the 2012 election had virtually zero impact. Donors trusted Rove to produce ads that were both innovative and effective and they got neither. Weak ads from one state to the next were placed on television and they failed miserably. “$400 million was wasted,” Trump went on to say.

10 posted on 02/16/2013 8:02:25 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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...just remember that his disastrous decisions during the Bush Administration paved the way for President Obama’s election, Obamacare’s implementation, and our unsustainable $16 trillion national debt.

I can't stand Karl Rove, but the reason the economy went to crap right before Bush left office was not the fault of political decisions emanating from the White House.

Republicans in congress simply failed to reign in Fannie and Freddie. We saw it coming, they saw it coming, and perhaps the political power wasn't there to stop what eventually happened, but the executive branch shouldn't get all the blame, IMHO.

11 posted on 02/16/2013 8:02:53 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Lakeshark

Rove is totally out of touch with the way politics need to be fought today. He fights the game like it is 1996.


12 posted on 02/16/2013 8:06:26 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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“You know it was really Karl Rove who gave us Obama.”

And George Bush gave us Karl Rove.

Thanks, George.

13 posted on 02/16/2013 8:08:19 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: wayoverontheright
the reason the economy went to crap right before Bush left office was not the fault of political decisions emanating from the White House.

The 2006 elections, when the GOP lost the house and senate were the direct result of insulting the GOP base by being silent about democrat criticism (new tone), and the disastrous attempt to shove the amnesty bill down the throat of the American public, and the lack of any attempt to slow down spending.

The unfortunate consequences were there was no way now to reigh in Fannie and Freddie even if they wanted to. I know it's complex, but there was enough failure in the vision of the Bush/Rove white house to assign plenty of blame to them.

14 posted on 02/16/2013 8:09:05 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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“Karl Rove, I just think he’s one of the most overrated people in politics.”

Sometimes the obvious has to be voiced.

15 posted on 02/16/2013 8:09:40 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Rove is totally out of touch with the way politics need to be fought today.

Perfectly stated. It's a huge problem we need to overcome.

16 posted on 02/16/2013 8:11:35 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Grandma Conservative
The only way to get rid of Rove and the other RINOs is to get involved within the party itself and change things. A third party should be our last resort.

G.C., you are so absolutely and completely correct!

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17 posted on 02/16/2013 8:23:01 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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AMEN! At ALL cost, we must avoid any third party interference in the 2016 election. I do like Rand Paul, but,if he really cares about the country, he will resist the temptation to run as a Tea Party candidate in anything other than the primary.
18 posted on 02/16/2013 8:38:51 AM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: Lakeshark
But, but... but... Hannity says he's THE ARCHITECT!!!

(Implicit sarcasm tag.)

19 posted on 02/16/2013 8:39:43 AM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: Lakeshark
Heard that show. Levin's been beating the drum all week. He declared war on Rove and the Establishment. Great stuff.

He was outstanding on Hannity's show this week, too. It would be worth searching YouTube for.

Levin's in a class by himself, as far as political commentators go.

20 posted on 02/16/2013 8:42:41 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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