Posted on 02/14/2013 5:53:36 PM PST by Nachum
THIS IS AN ORGANIZED NATIONAL EFFORT FOLKS…… This is not a coincidence. It is a concerted effort.
Missouri Democrats are pushing a bill to confiscate guns giving gun owners 90 days to turn in their weapons. Minnesota Democrats are pushing the same bill.
Missouri Democrats introduced an anti-gun bill which would turn law-abiding firearm owners into criminals this week. Gun owners will have 90 days to turn in their guns if the legislation is passed. Dana Loesch has more details.
Here is the language:
4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:
(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
the left have always been organised and not in this country but they talk to other countries all the time and set their agenda throughout the world.
We on the other hand have a party which does nothing, we have talk radio for the most part which can;t even mention social issues and we just keep watching the elft ruin this country and the military.
Maybe millions of conservatives move out of their liberal socialist cess pits and make states like VA, NC, FL, CO, NM, more conservative and stop givng their hard earned money to socialist agendas.
Then we organise and stopmthe lefts radical agenda and bring back common sense like marriage , raising children, hard work, gun rights etc
this is all being led by Chicago thugs just likle everything which happens today, their massive voter fraud and no there is no way they won the last election fairly feces pushing marriage, anti guns, anti fre speech, anti states rights, pro illegals to get their numbers up etc.
you, I and man others know this but still too many on our side don;t know anything or just ut their heads in the sand.
The left have been talking to each other throughout the world, they nevr give up, the 20’s, then FDR, then the 70’s and now today.
Just look at how the left progresed through those times around the wworld,,
Mexico saw the radical left make war on Catholics, Wilson comes to power, etc, Tsars of Russia gone
then the rise of the NAZIS, Fascists in Italy,
Then the 70’s with Carter and the rise of the commies around the world
Now today with the Chicago thugs and other lefty power around the world.
They all talk to each other and never quit, they wait and wait for the right time and then push their agenda, , if it dones;t work then later they just reword it.
Our side has to stop reacting and be proactive, talk radio had better talk about social issues as well, hell why can;t talk radio, sites like this and the useless party called the GOP all meet and get common sense back to America?
Amen! Great poster!! That’s EXACTLY what needs to happen and is long overdue!!!
If that fails all the millions of gun owners, normal marriage, believe in hard work and the rule of law move out of their liberal cess pits and move to states like FL, NC, VA, CO, NM, OH, AND MAKE THEM MORE CONSERVATIVE.
without those states the left cannot win any election and therefore places like NY, Chicago, Detroit, Boston and DC can go to hell.
They can wallow in their socialist cess pits and have conservatives for once run this nation and have us telling them how things should be.
why are the Democrats preparing to invade the civilian population?
It is very ussr of them to demand turnover. In the ussr it was merely shotguns.
It seems names and faces have to be placed with these democrats so they can have VIABLE primary challnegers.
in our street, there is only one guy with no guns and who hates guns and of course he;s the old, miserable , hermit ,always calling the county ratting guy from CT who seems to not understand this is not the north east.
should have said to Lincoln here are all the black slaves, you can have them and do what you must up there in DC, Chicago, NY, Boston etc and then we want away from DC.\\\All slavery did was to give Lincoln an excuse to use to keep Britain and France from helping the south and it worked.
Course don;t mention to loud mouth Bill O.R any of this or how Lincoln was thinking of sending them to Liberia, it might damage his brain and over shadow his book
should have said to Lincoln here are all the black slaves, you can have them and do what you must up there in DC, Chicago, NY, Boston etc and then we want away from DC.\\\All slavery did was to give Lincoln an excuse to use to keep Britain and France from helping the south and it worked.
Course don;t mention to loud mouth Bill O.R any of this or how Lincoln was thinking of sending them to Liberia, it might damage his brain and over shadow his book
come south pal, FL is always looking for good conservatives and we can even shoot in our back yards, have big fires and think marriage is for one man and a woman, oh and men don;t wear dresses in ths county
there is a massive movement of left over commies, socilaists and Marxists who are runing this agenda, who in turn use the media which has all their cronies in it and then repeat talking points to the low info ignorant masses in this country.
We might have won the cold war over seas and the end of the commies there but they went underground here, waiting for their day to take over the white house and push us to their commie dream.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Hey buddy! Good to hear from ya.
I’ve got family in Florida. Haven’t seen them in years...
I spent about two months in Miami in 1977 staying with an older sister and her husband. Loved it.
What I remember was Heat ... beach ... heat ... girls in bikinis ... humidity ... palm trees ... girls in bikinis everywhere ... blue, clear water ... girls in bikinis everywhere... and girls in bikinis everywhere ... it was very, very nice...especially at 17 years old... Hahah!!!
just for giggles, whats the requirements/prohibitions with charging every one of these *sworn servants* with conspiracy to deprive rights, and seeking the death penalty ???
afterall, the death of *resistors* is part of the push...
curious to your input...
The American People will never stand for Nationalized Health Care er Gun Confiscation Laws.
obama is targeting TX to convert it to democrat.
TX has to act now to protect itself.
Perhaps a proportionate county award of electoral votes and in state sentatorial electors in order to minimize damage from leftist urban areas.
How many Tanks, or aircraft did they have?
All they have to do now is turn of the electric and close the roads and rivers, those that can't survive on their own will give up.
It all depends on how brutal the government is willing to get. Waco was likely a test case.
Is that tanks I see being used against our citizens at Waco? Yeah I thought so, Posse come and got us, indeed.
To seek the death-penalty, well, let's check the law:
18 USC § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of lawOk, so the underlined is the conditions which constitute applicable here. Definitely applicable. The italicized is a 10-year max sentence, and much easier to activate: simply resist arrest for violating the weapons-ban and you'll incur some nice injury (or death) -- unfortunately this is unlikely to be able to go "up-the-tree" and hit the lawmakers. To seek the death penalty for these lawmakers we need to look at the bold portion.
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
The problem we have here is that the language of the prohibition isn't exactly laying out the plan of kidnapping [or attempt thereof] in plain terms. So we have to look at the US Code definition of kidnapping:
(a) Whoever unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, decoys, kidnaps, abducts, or carries away and holds for ransom or reward or otherwise any person, except in the case of a minor by the parent thereof, when—We could argue that, as all commerce [and non-commerce] has been deemed "interstate commerce" for the sake of federal control (see Wickard v. Filburn & Gonzalas v. Raich [IIRC]), this means that the very act of the State paying the salaries of these representatives (and enforcement) qualifies as commerce -- The other thing, is if they use the USPS [for any reason] WRT the implementation of this law, makes any arrest attempts based thereof into kidnapping.
(1) the person is willfully transported in interstate or foreign commerce, regardless of whether the person was alive when transported across a State boundary, or the offender travels in interstate or foreign commerce or uses the mail or any means, facility, or instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce in committing or in furtherance of the commission of the offense;
There is also the "death results from" or "attempt to kill" as well, this wold require proving that the proposed law is, in fact, an attempt to kill people. This sounds very much like "conspiracy theory" and therefore is going to be highly subjective on the part of the jury. -- Ideally it would be presented to the Grand Jury, pushing for them to issue a presentment. (Sadly, I haven't found a way to contact a grand jury.)
Next, let's look at this other law:
18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rightsNow this law would be much more conducive to catching a conspiracy... for the obvious reason. The mere proposing of this law could be violation of this law; again the proposal-to-dead-people line needs to be drawn. I believe that line exists; however, legally proving that is a bit of a challenge. One that I'm not sure I could do in court.
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
I saw an auction yesterday for 3 bricks of 22 ammo, the bidding was up to $180.00 and there was still a week to go before bidding closed. WallyWorld had some 22 ammo come in a couple days ago, but somehow there are people that seem to know exactly when it arrives, never gets to the shelves.
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