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Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin
NY Post ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | CHUCK BENNETT and DAVID K. LI

Posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:43 AM PST by KeyLargo

Edited on 02/14/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin

By CHUCK BENNETT and DAVID K. LI From Post Wires Last Updated: 6:14 AM, February 14, 2013

Murderous ex-cop Christopher Jordan Dorner wanted to go out in a blaze of glory — and the sheriff’s deputies who surrounded his California mountain hideout provided the flames.

The San Bernardino County cops torched the wooden cabin with highly flammable “incendiary tear gas” as Dorner took refuge Tuesday, apparently burning him to a crisp.

“Burn this mf--er!” one officer shouted as they had Dorner — who had earlier killed a deputy and seriously wounded another — pinned down in the cabin, according to police radio transmissions.

Amid sounds of gunfire, voices can be head shouting, “Burn it down!” and “Shoot the gas!”

Excerpt, read more at nypost


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; christopherdorner; dorner; fff; govtabuse; massmurderer; teaparty; tyranny
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To: AppyPappy

They deployed 7 pyrotechnic CS cans with the intended purpose of setting the cabin on fire. You can here them talking about it on the radio chatter.


341 posted on 02/14/2013 1:08:19 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: null and void
At that point they could have safely let him bleed out.

Blood spatter does not automatically equal a fatal wound. He also could have applied a tourniquet to it if it was in his arm or leg.

And the longer the siege wore on, the greater the chance he could get one last shot off at an officer who was exposed for a moment.

I have no problem with the tactic of burning this creep out. He had killed enough already.

342 posted on 02/14/2013 1:09:55 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: rarestia
You don’t break down peaceful citizens’ doors in the early morning hours and expect to not get shot at in my neck of the woods.

*shrug* There have been multiple occasions that the San Jose PD has been here. I've been awakened by them at my bedroom door at 2:30 AM, I've had them knocking on my front door on a couple occasions very late at night, sometimes armed for bear. I've allowed a warrantless search for drug manufacturing paraphernalia, they've done a warrantless search of one of my roommates bedroom. (They apparently don't need a warrant to search you if you are on parole).

Fully half the fix-it tickets and moving violations I've gotten in my life (one of each) were issued by the SJPD.

That being said, I like the SJPD, they have invariably been at the highest standards of professionalism, courtesy and respectful treatment of all.

LAPD? Arrogant scum on nearly every single occasion I've had the displeasure of being in close contact with them.

343 posted on 02/14/2013 1:10:03 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: USAF80

Yep. Traffic stop, cop sees you are a carry permit holder... You sneeze while he’s walking up to your car.

He executes you right there.

Fully justified in the mindset on display in this thread.

And yeah... We’ve seen the videos here of cops who are just that twitchy on the trigger.


344 posted on 02/14/2013 1:10:24 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: USAF80
This is how getting "droned" will start. Get the public used to incidents like this. The next person will be hit with a Helfire missile.

Oh, cripes. If there ever was a justifiable use of lethal force by cops, it was with this situation.

Lethal force justified. Anyone remember the Philly MOVE incident where the cops used C4 to take out a block of apartments?

Yeah, and we have seen that tactic used repeatedly since.

Oops, we haven't.

345 posted on 02/14/2013 1:11:33 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Dead Corpse
I only wish that the LAPD wasn’t noted as being one of the most corrupt outside of Chicago. Maybe then none of this would have happened.

Maybe the Naval Reserve is to blame? If he hadn't been in the Navy maybe none of this would have happened. Better yet, let's place the blame on the killer/fugitive!

346 posted on 02/14/2013 1:12:02 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Dead Corpse

I don’t think a CS can is designed to burn down a house. You would need something fairly combustible in the house like the Davidians used in their compound.


347 posted on 02/14/2013 1:15:23 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dead Corpse

“He executes you right there.
Fully justified in the mindset on display in this thread.”

Damn right he is justified. You are spreading germs.


348 posted on 02/14/2013 1:16:35 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I only wish that the LAPD wasn’t noted as being one of the most corrupt outside of Chicago. Maybe then none of this would have happened.

Doesn't seem to bother you too much that two families with young children lost fathers because of this maniac.

349 posted on 02/14/2013 1:16:48 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: headsonpikes
Leave the LAPD alone - they’ve suffered enough!

*sigh* *hangs head* *scuffs toe in dirt* OK. I'm sorry I called them arrogant scum...

350 posted on 02/14/2013 1:17:16 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

And that Dorner killed innocent 3rd parties as part of his vendetta.


351 posted on 02/14/2013 1:17:57 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: dirtboy
>> Deadly force was justifiable until such time that he surrendered.<<

ROFLMAO !!!! Surely you don’t think those LEOs were going to allow that now did you? Deadly force? Who was in danger if the LEOs just stayed back and starved him out?

352 posted on 02/14/2013 1:18:53 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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To: Dead Corpse
At the time they deployed the pyro, he hadn’t fired on them in hours.

Then why didn't he surrender peacefully?

353 posted on 02/14/2013 1:25:15 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: null and void

Well OK then.

But, nuking them from orbit though...really...you should be ashamed of your intemperence.


354 posted on 02/14/2013 1:27:04 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: CynicalBear
ROFLMAO !!!! Surely you don’t think those LEOs were going to allow that now did you? Deadly force? Who was in danger if the LEOs just stayed back and starved him out?

I know a guy who can hit the black at 300 yards with iron sights from a similar weapon to what the perp had. All it would take is one shot from the perp and another cop briefly uncovered is down.

You act like such a siege is a no-risk proposition for the cops in question.

355 posted on 02/14/2013 1:27:59 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: vbmoneyspender

Point taken. I conflated civilian with innocent, not at all what I meant, but it is what I said.

My mistake, my misspeak.

‘Preciate you calling me on it.


356 posted on 02/14/2013 1:28:16 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Bingo. A lot of people are interested in labeling Dorner as a full blown psychopath, but fact is that he wasn't. He let the boat owner in San Diego go away alive, and told him to get to Mexico in order to retrieve the boat. He also spared the lives of the couple at the first Big Bear cabin, indicating that he had no interest in killing them but that he just wanted their Mazda. He also let the owner of the pick-up truck go alive as well.

My big question to everyone is this: Where was the cop with the bullhorn broadcasting at the cabin Dorner was hiding in? You know, the negotiator type who tells Dorner that his service in the Navy and his service as a Police Officer will be taken into account, and that he will get fair treatment at a trial if he gives himself up. Where was that guy?

Where was he to remind Dorner that if he doesn't shoot, they won't shoot either and that things could end peacefully? The only thing that I have heard from the radio chatter is basically that they wanted Dorner dead no matter what. This police conversation on the radio about "burn that mother******" and all this kind of stuff tells me that Dorner never had a chance of coming out alive. Period.

357 posted on 02/14/2013 1:28:27 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Prole
indicating that he had no interest in killing them but that he just wanted their Mazda.

Whatta guy.

358 posted on 02/14/2013 1:30:00 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: vbmoneyspender
I only wished they’d killed him sooner.

They sure tried to.

359 posted on 02/14/2013 1:31:31 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: headsonpikes

A small nuke, not an H-bomb...


360 posted on 02/14/2013 1:36:26 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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