[Prole]

Bingo. A lot of people are interested in labeling Dorner as a full blown psychopath, but fact is that he wasn't. He let the boat owner in San Diego go away alive, and told him to get to Mexico in order to retrieve the boat. He also spared the lives of the couple at the first Big Bear cabin, indicating that he had no interest in killing them but that he just wanted their Mazda. He also let the owner of the pick-up truck go alive as well.

My big question to everyone is this: Where was the cop with the bullhorn broadcasting at the cabin Dorner was hiding in? You know, the negotiator type who tells Dorner that his service in the Navy and his service as a Police Officer will be taken into account, and that he will get fair treatment at a trial if he gives himself up. Where was that guy?

Where was he to remind Dorner that if he doesn't shoot, they won't shoot either and that things could end peacefully? The only thing that I have heard from the radio chatter is basically that they wanted Dorner dead no matter what. This police conversation on the radio about "burn that mother******" and all this kind of stuff tells me that Dorner never had a chance of coming out alive. Period.

[dfwgator]

indicating that he had no interest in killing them but that he just wanted their Mazda.

Whatta guy.

[Cboldt]

I think most of the public will not find the police statements, that they did not intend to kill Dorner, to be credible. One sees many forms of justification for the action on the threads here. He killed innocent people, he had expressed an intention to go on killing, he had expressed that he would not allow himself to be taken alive, etc.

I think this case is exceptional, meaning that is not common (but not unheard of) for the police to change from a role of "capture if you can," to "do not take alive." Outside of LA, I don't think there is a risk of public blowback in the form of diminished respect or heightened concern. In LA, who knows. The racial agitators may or may not choose to use this incident as a spark.

[Alaska Wolf]

My big question to everyone is this:

Why did Dorner hole up in a cabin, which wasn't his? Why didn't he surrender peacefully prior to killing the deputy sheriff?

[dirtboy]

A lot of people are interested in labeling Dorner as a full blown psychopath, but fact is that he wasn't.

Yeah, he was obviously just a half-hearted psychopath.

Who had a beef with the LAPD but ended up killing a sherrif's deputy in another jurisdiction.

BTW, Dorner's own manifesto said he would not be taken alive. Kinda hard to negotiate with someone like that.