Posted on 02/11/2013 1:22:11 PM PST by BulletBobCo
The Affordable Care Act is looking less and less affordable.
Start with the IRS’s new estimate for what the cheapest family plan will cost by 2016: $20,000 a year to cover two adults and three kids. And that will only cover 60 percent of medical bills, so add hefty out-of-pocket costs, too.
The next surprise is for parents who thought their kids would be covered by an employer. Sloppy wording in the law left that unclear until last week, when the IRS ruled that kids won’t be covered.
Starting in 2014, the law will require employers with 50 or more full-time employees to offer coverage or pay a penalty. “Affordable” coverage, that is — meaning the employee can’t be told to contribute more than 9.5 percent of his salary. For example, a worker earning $40,000 a year cannot be required to pay more than $3.800.
But the law doesn’t specifically mandate family coverage — and now the administration says that won’t be required.
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The total number of people on welfare are about the same around 1.7 million blacks and around 1.8 million whites. Total population wise there are more blacks on welfare around 4%. Whites are around 1% if you do it per population size. However you want to look at it 1.8>1.7.
People like to throw out that there are more blacks on welfare which only applies to the percentages. Keep in mind that a lot of people only stay on welfare a couple of years then get off it. I have a family member who was on welfare because of a serious accident between jobs and benifits ran out.
It is not possible to get any true figures because they include such things as social security, military retirement, disability, etc, in their figures. Some of these are not “free” money but earned.
If we are going strictly welfare there are 4.8 million. If you add the black/white numbers this is 3.5 million total. Hispanics, Asians and others make up the balance.
Welfare spending not including foodstamps=$131.9 billion.
Bottom line, Don’t believe the hype.
Figures should be 1.8 blacks 1.7 whites for 2012.
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No, that is not the case. The numbers you mention are the percentage of the total of all welfare recipients in the US by race. For example, 39.8% of all welfare recipients in the US are black.
In rough numbers,
79% of the total US population is white, and whites represent approximately 38.8% of the total number of people on welfare in the US.
13% of the total US population is black, and blacks make up 39.8% of the total number people on welfare.
In real numbers, blacks on welfare do outnumber whites on welfare, but not by much (39.8% of the total vs. 38.8% of the total).
You are correct in your thinking. Bottom line is...
FedGov says about 4 out of 10 welfare recipients are black
FedGov says about 4 out of 10 welfare recipients are white
2010 census says there are 223,000,000 whites in the US
2010 census says there are roughly 39,000,000 blacks in the US
My point still stands, there are more black both as a percentage and in raw numbers than whites. Now, when you break it down to demographics, the percentage of the black population on welfare (as considered in their demographic) is huge compared to whites.
4% vs 1% is not huge. Strictly using welfare equates to 43K more blacks on welfare. There is no way to break it down as to how long each group is on welfare. Welfare is dynamic as people are leaving and entering all the time. There are some you make it a career choice but that is true for all races.
Most people make it out that 50% of the blacks in this country are on welfare. Even at 4%, blacks mirror the total amount of welfare recipients which is 4.1%.
Here is how it actually breaks down...
If 38.8% of the entire non-hispanic white population were on welfare, the roles would be much larger than 48M to cover that since 0.388*196,817,552 = 76,365,210 based on 2010 numbers.
When looking at the numbers the way I suggest (48M welfare recipients divvied up in percentages per capita), then the numbers work.
Blacks would be: 19,104,000 (39.8% of 48M) The black population of the US per the 2010 census is 37,685,848. That works out to ~50% of the entire black population on welfare (more likely food stamps) based on your numbers.
Whites would be: 18,624,000 (38.8% of 48M) The white non-Hispanic population per the 2010 census is 196,817,552. This works out to 9.463% of the entire white population receiving said benefits.
Hispanics would be: 7,536,000 (15.7% of 48M) The Hispanic population per the 2010 census is 50,477,594. This works out to 14.93% of the entire Hispanic population receiving said benefits.
Like it or not, this IS how the math works based on the numbers you started out with and the real census data broken down in the demographic categories you highlighted.
I get that the numbers aren't static, I get that there are legitimate reasons to use the benefits temporarily. Given the random normal distribution and opportunity for abuse, I'd say that the group most likely to abuse the system is the group that is already taking advantage of the system in much greater percentages of their demographic to begin with. There is no stigma associated with the behavior that has an impact within the ghetto culture anymore.
The stats don’t break it down as to who is on what. Welfare and the food stamp program are not the same thing. Unemployment insurance is also labeled under welfare.
Stats are from Dept of Health Services. They do not list how many person of which race is recieving what. They just use percentages and then they lump different things together. If you add everything together and consider all welfare then the number is 56.6M.
When they post the stats they just say 38.8% is on welfare but they do not break it down further. Is welfare just welfare, welfare+foodstamps, unemployment, you get the pic.
I don’t know what you are considering welfare. People in the military can qualify for food stamps.
“You are lumping Hispanics in with the white population numbers in the census 2010 data - I know, I looked at it when I responded with the math originally, so I will repeat it again here.”
Different years have different numbers. I am using 2012 data. Hispanics can claim to be black, white or hispanic. I don’t know.
I does not really matter as the people who approve welfare are part of the problem. I know for a fact that my family member had to go several times to the welfare office to get removed from the program.
The facts are people on welfare did not create the program or the problems associated with it. It was the government who created this monster. Some need it and some abuse it.
If there are more blacks on welfare then that mirrors the fact that blacks traditionally have lower earnings than whites in the history of the USA.
“If there are more blacks on welfare then that mirrors the fact that blacks traditionally have lower earnings than whites in the history of the USA.”
It could also mirror the fact that there is a huge victim mentality and insistence on being entitled to what is (more-a-less reparations through wealth redistribution at this point) as well.
Perpetually offended people with a chip on their shoulder believe they are entitled to the fruits of other peoples’ labor because they have been told so by the people that brought us this massive boondoggle called welfare.
I realize not everyone fits the mold, but there is a large contingent of people milking the system and getting rubber stamped because of race...
True, some of the "generational welfare" clan comes to mind. Clinton had the right idea to kick them off welfare once kids are school age. The rubber stamping is the administration of the program. What percentage of welfare case workers are themselves minorities? You can only be on welfare or assistance if someone places you on it. The system has built in weaknesses and flaws that needs to be addressed. I can't think of any fixes that would not generate a bunch of riots. Politicians know this that is why welfare has never been sucessfully reformed in any meaniful way.
What is the difference between Single Payer and Obamacare?
0bamacare provides the myth that you get to choose from a pool of private insurers.
Of course, they have to be “approved” by the government,
which is de facto fascism.
Thanks for posting!
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