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1 posted on 02/05/2013 7:37:41 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Civil war looms closer and closer.


2 posted on 02/05/2013 7:47:25 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Kaslin

Whats the difference? A Monarch has historically held his serfs lives in his hands, Obama is just reminding everyone that we live and serve at his pleasure!


4 posted on 02/05/2013 7:51:00 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Shoot first, create evidence later.


5 posted on 02/05/2013 7:51:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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” - - - kill Americans abroad suspected of terror activity. - - - “

Benghazi-Coward Hussein Obama has discarded “Due Process of Law” for pushbutton murder.

I ‘suspect’ that this is going to be a very looooooooooooooooooooooong 4 years!


6 posted on 02/05/2013 7:51:22 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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“Remember all the grief that George Bush got for warrantless wiretaps on phone calls? Do you remember that? I remember when Bush was president, the American left was literally having conniption fits.”

And when Dear Leader started doing the same thing on Day 4 of his presidency, and has stepped it up, no lefty, progressive, or oppressor has complained. No issue with all the tracking databases Bush was castigated for.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 8:00:06 PM PST by DBrow
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Guess I’m a little slow on this......can someone tell me why Obama would want this document leaked? Is it a show of Obamas power or is it a threat? Another overreach of authority, and it just keeps coming.....no one is stopping him.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 8:04:14 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ..

You have the wrong idea Rush.

Its OK if Obama does it because he cares for us, unlike those greedy Republicans (that mean old Bush) who tortured other human beings (Muslims) without due process.

Our President did it for Gibby and the children. That makes it OK.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 8:10:47 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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“A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the US government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be ‘senior operational leaders’ of al-Qaida or ‘an associated force’

So..... the logical outcome of that kind of directive is that Obama should order a drone attack on the White House.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 8:13:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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The Buzzard Kenyam usurper has just declared open season on John Q. and Jane Q. Public!

Gee! Pretty good, there, Obama!

Why, you, the reader, ask?

Last time something like this happened, the local forces surrounded, negotiated, and failed to come to an agreement with the site commander, of a little place called Fort Sumter. You have heard the rest of THAT story.

The Kenyan Usurper Obama just handed us Fort Sumter, in a long memo, again!

Molon Labe

Long Live The Republic!


11 posted on 02/05/2013 8:16:14 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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The quintessential drone.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 8:23:48 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Let me see: President Bush having a foreign terrorist water boarded = evil. President Obama using a hellfire missile to turn an American and all those nearby into a splatter of pink mist is okay. Well, I can't argue with that kind of thinking by the American left...because it is absolutely insane! My gosh where are the patriots that can do something about this imperial lunatic?
14 posted on 02/05/2013 8:25:03 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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Anyone have any idea what the caller was talking about....the Rachel Maddow comments about a panel, holding people in custody, etc?


16 posted on 02/05/2013 8:29:20 PM PST by Girlene
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They have determined they can’t waterboard them to get any information. They don’t like housing them in Gitmo for some reason. so they will use drones to just kill them. However we have open borders. so we really have no idea who is in this country and whether they are Al Qaeda or not. Heck we don’t even know if the Prez is a citizen.

bottom line ... if they don’t like you they kill you.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 8:41:53 PM PST by plain talk
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Hey, what matters here is that the Bush Administration listened in on the cell phone conversations of foreigners in Pakistan and Yemen, thus violating their constitutional right to privacy.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 8:47:26 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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Are we in a war with Al Quaeda, are these Americans acting treasonously, and how is it demonstrated that one needs execution?

Just a rhetorical question --

20 posted on 02/05/2013 8:56:27 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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Reciprocity CAN be a bitch. Just say’in...


23 posted on 02/05/2013 9:19:10 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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The President Decides He Can Kill US Citizens Without Making a Case to a Judge

DUH!!!

We've killed 55,000,000 in 40 years; so what's a few more???


LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of... my ASS!

25 posted on 02/06/2013 2:48:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?”

These aren’t irrelevant questions Dale Reed, but few realized the extent to which Obama was likely a creation of our own government, a creation whose documents have and would continue to be protected by professionals, such as former CIA Deputy Director, and now likely Director, John Brennan, the federal court system, and apparently, enough justices of the Supreme Court to block a hearing.

Obama’s patron, beginning at lease with his move to Occidental, has leaked out thanks to a few who weren’t in on the scam, such as Attorney to Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, The Muslim BrotherHood, and Charles Rangel, along with having flown in a black WWII squadron in the US Army Air Corp, and having been Manhattan Borough President for a decade or so, Percy Sutton. Sutton let the cat out by revealing that Obama’s Patron as of 1985 was Prince Whalid bin-Talal. Obama’s comrades quickly pronounced Percy senile, and the press quashed his statement, which can still be found on YouTube. The politburo probably realized that scrubbing the Sutton interview would attract attention to it. Find it on YouTube and decide. The politburo announced that “a Sutton family attorney declared Percy Sutton incompetent.” The Sutton family said they had never heard of the attorney, who didn’t even know Percy’s correct age, and that Percy was smart and lucid till the day he died. He told the truth that the media and the left were doing an excellent job of ignoring.

When Frank Mieli located a 1979 Chicago Trib article (cited by Jack Cashill) by Vernon Jarrett, Valerie’s father-in-law, with bin-Talal’s legal representative, known in the 60s as Don Warden, and as Khalid al_Mansour after he went to work for the Saudi Family as a Wahhabi recruiter and lawyer, the connections became more clear. Vernon worked with Frank Marshall Davis for twenty years before Frank scurried off to Hawaii in the late 40s. Both were open communists, working at times for the same communist papers in Chicago. Vernon certainly knew Barry in 1979, when Warden/Mansour was already helping - with bin-Talal’s money. (The article described Mansour’s project to spend twenty millions of Saudi money educating minorities, mostly black and Hispanic. Mansour was later quietly funding Maddrassas throughout the world, and has been doing so for almost forty years)

It was Mansour who managed the funding of Barry’s brief appearance in Columbia’s records, even if no photographic evidence has appeared, and no student at Columbia ever saw him there. It was Mansour who contacted Sutton to help get Barry into Harvard. It was bin-Talal who donated twenty million dollars to Harvard in 1986, ten million more than he offered Rudy Giuliani to apologize for his brotherhood’s destruction of the World Trade Centers and Pentagon and the lives of three thousand or so Americans.

Obama’s patron, bin-Talal, is the major funding source for the Muslim Brotherhood, the employers of Hillary’s aide, Huma Abiden’s parents. He is the largest external stock holder of News Corp - Fox and the WSJ - a very large Citibank, Oracle, Cisco, Apple, Siemen’s, and GE investor. Whether you consider this about money or Islam, they are Obama’s foundation, and tied inextricably to oil. That is why Keystone is delayed and the EPA has orders to constrain any development leading toward energy independence. The Saudis need us dependent for their survival. Saddam would have taken them. Iran probably could, and would were it not for our our help, or Israel’s. That is why Obama has helped insert the Muslim Brotherhood into every country in North Africa that had managed to surpress them, with our help and Israel’s. Obama represents the Muslim Brotherhood.

Obama is not natural born, and every US Senator knows it. They all signed the nonsensical Senate Resolution 511, April 2008, sponsored by Leahy and McCaskill (Obama’s Campaign Committee Chair), after the Obama/McCaskill law, SB 2678, failed to pass in February 2008. Both bills supported by the Democrat Senate Judiciary Committee, were to proclaim John McCain eligible to run, after Democrats had spent eight years proving he wasn’t. They were correct, but with McCain running no one could question Obama, since neither was eligible. Was McCain part of the plot? He’ll never admit it, but it is impossible that he didn’t thoroughly understand the issue.

A natural born citizen is born on our soil to parents who were its citizens. Terms aren’t defined in the Constitution. Our framers knew that word’s meanings change in time, and the Constitution was based upon eternal law, natural law. So they specified, Madison and John Marshall, and James Wilson and others, that definitions come from the common language and law familiar to our framers. That is why there are no definitions in the Constitution. If you read carefully you will find one qualification of a term, “treason”, but one unique to our new nation based upon laws and not a monarch.

Was John McCain, a former prisoner of war, really not eligible? That was the gist of the Obama/McCaakill law, SB 2678, the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. It failed to pass in 2008. McCain was the subject. Were he natural born the law was moot. It wasn’t, and the bill failed. I believe there should be an amendment, but don’t believe Obama or McCaskill really wanted to enable political opponents from military families. The military is generally conservative. The caution shown by our framers was warranted, particularly with as much as half our new nation wishing were were still a British Colony. Our framers “grandfathered” the early presidents, insuring that they had fought for independence with the 14 year residency requirement, but insisted that our presidents, uniquely, among our leaders, be born to those who fought for the revolution - born “to parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty”, in the words of Congressman John Bingham, the author of the 14th Amendment, our naturalization amendment.

Obama is not president because he was born a British Subject. Neither Obama nor the apparently overwhelming powers presumed to have voted for him (our voting system is completely unverifiable) respect the Constitution, and have said so. They would not care if he were born in Mecca. They nor many voters have not cared enough to insist on knowing his real name, on seeing his school records, verifying how old he is, or, as this thread points out, where he was born. It is to whom he was born that is more important. We knew who McCain’s parents were, even though he wasn’t born on our soil. That was the sentiment driving SR 511, and one with which I agree, but a resolution is not law. That, in my opinion, is an oversight, addressable, if we believe the Constitution still has some legal authority, only by the Supreme Court, or amendment. John Conyers made two attempts to amend the Constitution between 2003 and 2007, both of which would have legitimized Barry, but neither attempt, like at least twenty four others, left the Congress for ratification by the states. The Supreme Court, as Clarence Thomas commented to Senator Menendez, were avoiding the issue. Remember, Barry was born a British Subject, a natural born British subject, and, unlike naturalized Brits, could have been a Member of Parliament (our nation is much more liberal about who can be in Congress). Are any surprised that we, who don’t know our Constitution, are becoming more subjects to the supreme authority of our monarch and less sovereign citizens? Find the wonderful “Dissertaion on Citizenship...” by our first Congressional Historian, Dr. David Ramsay for the most eloquent discription of how subjects and citizens differ. Here is just a taste:

Subjects look up to a master, but citizens are so far equal, that none have hereditary rights superior to others. Each citizen of a free state contains, within himself, by nature and the constitution, as much of the common sovereignty as another. In the eye of reason and philosophy, the political condition of citizens is more exalted than that of noblemen. Dukes and Earls are the creatures of kings, and may be made by them at pleasure: but citizens possess in their own right original sovereignty.

(Another poster contributed this)


27 posted on 02/06/2013 3:14:03 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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Well, obammy does think he’s king ya know


28 posted on 02/06/2013 3:26:57 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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If Obama can legally order the killing of American citizens in foreign countries, he can do the same in the United States--he can order the killing of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or anyone else he doesn't like.

Centuries of "due process of law" have just been rendered inoperative.

32 posted on 02/06/2013 9:43:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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