Posted on 02/05/2013 7:37:38 PM PST by Kaslin
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RUSH: This is from NBC News: "A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the US government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be 'senior operational leaders' of al-Qaida or 'an associated force' -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the US."
It is kind of open-ended. So American citizens can be killed simply based upon suspicions, a belief not even based on intelligence. That's what I just read here. I'll read it again. "A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the US government," i.e., Obama, "can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be 'senior operational leaders' of al-Qaida or 'an associated force' -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the US."
Well, that's not just open-ended. That's a pretty big net. That is casting a really wide net because it almost sounds like you don't even have to be a senior operational leader of Al-Qaeda or an associated force. Well, actually, an associated force is interesting. If this provision had been in place back in the seventies, does this mean that Nixon could have assassinated the Weathermen? Does this mean that Nixon coulda taken out Bill Ayers? Does this mean that Richard Nixon could have taken out the New Black Panther Party? It doesn't mean that? Well, "...'senior operational leaders' of al-Qaida or 'an associated force' -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the US.
"The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News," which means the administration gave it to 'em, "provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices: its dramatically increased use of drone strikes against al-Qaida suspects abroad, including those aimed at American citizens."
Remember all the grief that George Bush got for warrantless wiretaps on phone calls? Do you remember that? I remember when Bush was president, the American left was literally having conniption fits.
Does that mean Nixon coulda killed Bill Ayers? It does mean that. Bill Ayers or the Weathermen. He had an active plot against the US, bombed the Pentagon. If Nixon had assumed the kind of power that Obama's assuming, he could have sent a commando team out to wipe out Bill Ayers. You can't kill rogue leaders. No, you cannot. By law, we cannot assassinate foreign leaders. We can now kill Americans, as long as we say they are related to Al-Qaeda somehow. And that link isn't too tough. Al-Qaeda hates America. All you have to do is hate America and it could be said that you are an associated force.
Remember all of the anger that the left had over waterboarding. And look at this now. I think I have this right. Constitutional scholar Barack Obama is demanding the right to kill American citizens without making his case to a judge, as long as he thinks the American in question is in an upper tier of operations of Al-Qaeda or a related group. But he can't waterboard the guy. You can kill him, but we can't waterboard him. We can kill the son of a..., but we can't torture him. Have I got this right? I think I do. I thought you should know.
Steve in Grand Terrace, California. Hi. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER: Hey, Rush. First thing I want to say is thanks for all the times you've made me laugh out loud while listening to you.
RUSH: Well, I appreciate that, sir, I really do. Thank you very much.
CALLER: I want to talk to you about something, but you just mentioned something. Can I bring up something about -- pronounce her name right -- Rachel Maddow, the lady that's on TV, she's kind of on the left side?
RUSH: You know, we don't talk about MSNBC on this program much. And it's not Friday.
CALLER: Okay. I apologize.
RUSH: I tell you what, I'm gonna go ahead and give you an exemption in honor of the seminar caller today, 'cause we're interested in balance. So I'll go ahead and let you. What is it you want to say about Rachel Maddow?
CALLER: Well, I was listening 'cause I joined this TeaParty.org, and a little thing was on there, and she was playing what Obama said from his own mouth, and she said, he's gonna create a panel, and this panel will have the authority to, let's say me, they didn't like what I'm saying and I pose a danger to the government, even if that danger is ten years from now, if they think ten years from now I pose a danger, they can come and get me for an indefinite period of time. And she was going out of her head, and she's on the left. She couldn't believe what he was saying, and if you ever get an opportunity you ought to check that out 'cause that's some curious things he's saying.
RUSH: I haven't heard this. You mean if you just say something that Obama doesn't like, he can come get you?
CALLER: Basically he was saying, if that panel, he said no one man should have the right, but we know if he created the panel --
RUSH: Wait a minute. Hold it, hold it. What panel?
CALLER: He wants to create a panel of people, and this panel will have the right to say this individual could be a danger or threat to the government in ten years, so they can go pick him up and keep him for an indefinite period of time. That's out of his own mouth. And she was just like in shock. She said (paraphrasing), "It's the worst thing I've heard in the history of doing this for a living."
RUSH: Honestly, Steve, I don't have any idea about this. I've never heard of this. I don't know what it is you're talking about.
CALLER: Well, if you get an opportunity, but I apologize for switching gears here, but when you were talking about that, it made me think about that, but the main thing is --
RUSH: The only thing I know, Steve, is if you produce a video that causes riots, say in Libya, they can put you in jail.
CALLER: Yes. That's for sure.
RUSH: Aside from that, I don't know of a panel that will put you in jail or get rid of you for what you're thinking.
CALLER: Well, you check it out when you can, and you'll find out he's opened his own mouth and said that's what he's planning on doing. As scary and as shocking as that is, it's real.
RUSH: Well, I don't know. We'll check. What is it you really called about?
CALLER: Okay, what I really called about is, you know, I just started a Tea Party group called the Desert Rats. It's just me. I just started it, but one of the things I want to tell everybody is, quit trying to create a third party. Just get a bunch of Tea Party people together, get 'em elected, and just take over the Republican Party and make it like it should be, not the mess it is today. Get rid of the Boehners, the McCains, the Lindsey Grahams, et cetera, and replace them with good people.
RUSH: You know, I just want to give you a little helpful hint, a little warning. You better be very careful who you say that kind of stuff to, or McCain might come and put you in jail.
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RUSH: Jay Carney just admitted it at the White House press briefing. He defended the use of drones to kill Americans abroad suspected of terror activity. But at the same time they're in favor of killing Americans, they're still against the use of waterboarding during interrogations. That's the latest from the White House.
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Whats the difference? A Monarch has historically held his serfs lives in his hands, Obama is just reminding everyone that we live and serve at his pleasure!
Shoot first, create evidence later.
” - - - kill Americans abroad suspected of terror activity. - - - “
Benghazi-Coward Hussein Obama has discarded “Due Process of Law” for pushbutton murder.
I ‘suspect’ that this is going to be a very looooooooooooooooooooooong 4 years!
“Remember all the grief that George Bush got for warrantless wiretaps on phone calls? Do you remember that? I remember when Bush was president, the American left was literally having conniption fits.”
And when Dear Leader started doing the same thing on Day 4 of his presidency, and has stepped it up, no lefty, progressive, or oppressor has complained. No issue with all the tracking databases Bush was castigated for.
Guess I’m a little slow on this......can someone tell me why Obama would want this document leaked? Is it a show of Obamas power or is it a threat? Another overreach of authority, and it just keeps coming.....no one is stopping him.
You have the wrong idea Rush.
Its OK if Obama does it because he cares for us, unlike those greedy Republicans (that mean old Bush) who tortured other human beings (Muslims) without due process.
Our President did it for Gibby and the children. That makes it OK.
“A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the US government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be ‘senior operational leaders’ of al-Qaida or ‘an associated force’
So..... the logical outcome of that kind of directive is that Obama should order a drone attack on the White House.
The Buzzard Kenyam usurper has just declared open season on John Q. and Jane Q. Public!
Gee! Pretty good, there, Obama!
Why, you, the reader, ask?
Last time something like this happened, the local forces surrounded, negotiated, and failed to come to an agreement with the site commander, of a little place called Fort Sumter. You have heard the rest of THAT story.
The Kenyan Usurper Obama just handed us Fort Sumter, in a long memo, again!
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All in preparation for Valerie Jarrett to assume the new office of High Chancellor (or some other weird dictatorial title).
The quintessential drone.
Another overreach of authority, and it just keeps coming.....no one is stopping him.
At least several times a week I find myself thinking that somehow I will wake up from this nightmare- that this country really did not actually elect that vile creature for another term. It’s been 3 months and I still can’t come to terms with it, not to mention things are getting worse much faster than I even imagined. The though of 4 more years of this is beyond comprehension. Our country will never recover. And just why IS no one even trying to stop him? Anyone? Hello?
Anyone have any idea what the caller was talking about....the Rachel Maddow comments about a panel, holding people in custody, etc?
I don’t know. Why WOULD he want it leaked? Makes no sense.
They have determined they can’t waterboard them to get any information. They don’t like housing them in Gitmo for some reason. so they will use drones to just kill them. However we have open borders. so we really have no idea who is in this country and whether they are Al Qaeda or not. Heck we don’t even know if the Prez is a citizen.
bottom line ... if they don’t like you they kill you.
Hey, what matters here is that the Bush Administration listened in on the cell phone conversations of foreigners in Pakistan and Yemen, thus violating their constitutional right to privacy.
Just a rhetorical question --
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