Posted on 01/08/2013 12:37:07 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
Police here are warning of a new hallucinogenic drug authorities say has begun circulating the St. Louis area.
St. Louis County police say the synthetic drug known as "N-Bomb" has been linked to deaths in other parts of the country including California, Louisiana, Minnesota, North Dakota and Virginia.
The drug, sometimes also called "Smiles" is known as N-Bomb for its chemical compositions, 2C-1-NBOMe or 251NBOMe, and can be extremely potent and dangerous, police say.
Police say the liquid drug is often called "legal acid" and is derived from mescaline. Users typically take the drug by ingesting blotter paper soaked with the liquid, similar to LSD.
Officer Randy Vaughn of the St. Louis County police said county's undercover drug officers have reported purchasing the drug recently.
According to media reports, the drug was banned in Virginia last year and later outlawed in Louisiana after a 21-year-old man died at a New Orleans music festival in November. The man apparently took N-Bomb from a stranger, began convulsing and died a short time later.
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that’s him
I guess different folks got different body chemistry.
LSD is a very dangerous drug, both short and long term usage.
So you want drugs you think are safer.
That means you need to draw a line.
Then we can draw the line at alcohol since it is legal.
LSD isn’t a dangerous drug, short or long term. There’s a lot of hype from the drug warriors on it, but it is 100% lies. It’s not even possible to OD on it, that’s how not dangerous it is.
I hadn’t read of any actual cases but this confirms what the doctor said. I simply couldn’t believe kids would do this. We were careful with those patches but kids are drinking/smoking it. Would anyone in their right mind just take a med, as much of it as they wanted, not caring what the dosage is?
Illicit drug users aren't the smartest people.
How many people know a long term LSD user?
Not many functioning it society are there?
We both agree, a line needs to be drawn.
True...it’s a great flick.
Meanwhile back in reality:
LSD is physiologically well tolerated and there is no evidence for long-lasting effects on brain and other parts of the human organism
http://www.maps.org/research/cluster/psilo-lsd/cns-neuroscience+therapeutics_2008-passie.pdf
The reason long term drug users have issues functioning in society isn’t the drugs, it’s their want of them. People that can’t hack reality can’t hack reality, with or without drugs.
We don’t agree on anything. No line needs to be drawn, because drawing those lines accomplishes NOTHING. People that want to do drugs will, prohibition fails over and over again.
Unfortunately some people in their youth don’t consider their own mortality. Figures, what with the poor education system. But look at who runs that, the liberal drug pushers.
Well, my husband and I go to a popular Mexican restaurant with a lady friend and I order a Margarita - one of those will last through my entire meal, drinking it slowly. The drinks arrived (I didn't know this restaurant puts in two shots of alcohol in there). In a short while, I couldn't see straight and I mean just that, I was a mess. My husband and the lady were having a great time laughing at me but I hated that condition. After the meal, husband had to help me to the car.
Now, at any restaurant, I always ask the waiter how a drink is made at that particular restaurant.
As do laws against rape, robbery, burglary and murder. Would they stop if we rescinded the laws against them?
Someone pushing LSD on FR is telling me about reality -LoL!
Drugs don’t harm people?
But you just posted about harmful drugs and suggested drawing a line.
I agree about that.
Prohibition causes more harm than good. Drug availability doesn’t stop or drop from prohibition, and the consequences of prohibition are more crime, and the destruction of freedom for law-abiding citizens.
You show a very low tolerance to alcohol. If I were you, I'd refrain from using it in any form.
“LSD is a very dangerous drug, both short and long term usage.”
Bing, bing, bing. We have a winner for the most know-nothing, laugh-out-loud nonsense posted today! Thanks for the chuckle!
I’m not pushing anything, I’m pointing out that your statement was false. You said LSD was dangerous in both short and long term effects, I showed you a link to pharmaceutical studies showing that’s not true.
I didn’t say drugs don’t harm people either. I said LSD doesn’t harm people, and that most of the major issues you find with long term drug users stem from them not the drug. Most folks that need a vacation from reality have issues whether or not they get that vacation. Habitual long term drug users are people that have habitually “needed” a break from reality for a long time. Now many things we stick in our body, including legal things, do a bit of damage a long the way. Including alcohol.
I did not suggest drawing a line. I pointed out that having things illegal just makes people find ways to create the same effect with something else, often something MUCH more hazardous. No lines mentioned
You’re O-fer here. Everything you’ve said I said I didn’t, work on your reading comprehension.
Would rape, robbery, burglary and murder stop if we rescinded the laws against them?
Hallucinogens can cause extreme, long-lasting adverse neuropsychiatric effects, like flashbacks (post-hallucination perceptual disorders), relatively long-lasting psychoses, severe depression or shizophrenia-like syndromes, especially in heavy or long-term users or in people with an underlying mental illness.
The difference of course being that the laws against rape, robbery, burglary and murder are laws against you doing things to other people; while laws against drug use are laws against you doing things to yourself. Vast important difference there. Once you decide the government has a place deciding what you do to yourself you’ve opened a very dangerous door, one very similar to socialized medicine, it’s the same door that we now get bans on “too much” soda from.
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