What you’ll see in the rebellion

bob-owens.com ^ | 28 December, 2012 | Bob Owens

[marktwain]

Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.

Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.

After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter.

[Windflier]

I think this is WAY over the ‘compassionate-conservative’s’ heads...

Good observation. There are obviously people on both sides of the political divide who completely miss the fundamental elements of this issue. Sadly, some of them even post here.

[SandRat]

THEY CAN'T HAVE THE RIFLES AND SHOT GUN THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED DOWN TO ME FROM MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER, PERIOD!!!

[Travis McGee]

Yeah. That’s why the mighty US military disarmed the Taliban so easily.

[Travis McGee]

I hope you are right. That is best case, and worth fighting for.

[Teacher317]

You are utterly ignorant of history, and clearly have not talked to any significant number of soldiers. Read up on the Warsaw Ghetto. Read up on Partisan uprisings. Further, this is a common topic of conversation in most military towns, and a very significant percentage of soldiers know exactly, how, when, and where they will take control of which vehicles, weapons, and supplies... and anything else that's on base that they may need. The lines are already drawn inside the ranks, and everyone knows who they can and can't talk to once it begins.

Personally, I think you're either a fool, or a Lefty plant, to post that.

[little jeremiah]

They will not take our guns away. Never gonna happen. But if they wanted to, they could easily do so. This isn’t Red Dawn.

Usual snot-like tripe from you.

[little jeremiah]

Weak kneed or Tokyo Roses.

[GBA]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking:

What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...

We didn’t love freedom enough.
And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation....
We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago

[CodeToad]

“there are many in the military who will not follow the order to shoot fellow Americans!”

True, but it will be a war with words:

1. They’ll never tell a member of the military to shoot an American, they call that American a “domestic terrorist” first.

2. They’ll never tell a member of the military to take guns, they’ll call them “sniper rifles” first.

Get the picture?

[PeterPrinciple]

In reviewing the Chinese Cultural Revolution, the local police were told not to get involved as the Red Guard stole and tortured. This will be our situation.

[going hot]

And they will tell ‘em that disarming americans will be a cake walk.

[CodeToad]

Yep, “You’re only supporting local law enforcement but you can fire if they or you are fired upon.”

[Billthedrill]

Oh, I disagree completely, with respect. Think of it - the most powerful government in the world, a navy matched by no other, an existing state organization, a polarized country containing spies and those loyal to the existing government - yeah, no chance of a successful revolution in America. But then, enough about 1776...

[Dan Cooper]

Printed guns may work for a shot or two, but NCR machines can easily turn out real guns.

Can you provide a link? I can't find anything on NCR Machines (that aren't ATMs).

[going hot]

Local delivery of webbed gear and other cool stuff.

[little jeremiah]

Lefty plant. Always been like that, no idea why he hasn’t been banned yet.

[itsahoot]

Just computer controlled machines of all stripes. Lathes, milling machines, grinders and such.

[Peet]

As a thought exercise i suppose one of the first act of resistance would be the sabotage of the military equipment in the hands of non-military organizations such as the DHS, TSA, city police departments, etc.

Could be a lot of things: Fighting Tyranny without Terrorizing the Innocent by Jefferson Mack

[Peet]

Forgot to warn y'all, my post above is a PDF...

During the LA riots, while Korean shopkeepers on roof tops protected their property using semi-automatic rifles, the police were nowhere to be found.

While Reginald Denny was dragged from his truck and beaten savagely, the police were nowhere to be found.

Since it must be assumed, unless explicitly and convincingly contradicted, that the police will side with the gun-grabbers, the police will simply be completely unwelcome. Even if individual policemen gave up their uniforms and badges, there would be no way to create confidence that they were not siding with the gun-grabbers.

Unfortunately, the same must be said about the National Guard and other military. It must be assumed that their chain of command will support the gun-grabbers. Active military will have to recognize that gun confiscation is an unlawful order and resist their own chain of command. There is no way that uniformed military will be welcome if the government attempts to eliminate the Second Amendment.

If anyone doesn't believe William, just search youtube for videos from New Orleans after Katrina hit. You will see CHiP pigs beating up an old woman to confiscate her revolver and forcibly relocate her (there's a follow-up interview in which she details her injuries).

There is also an interview with a national guard soldier in N.O. who was "uncomfortable" with the idea that he might have to shoot fellow Americans. Interviewed as his fellow soldiers in the background are going house-to-house forcibly evacuating folks.

[Travis McGee]

You could write several novels.