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Obama Says All Gun Buyers Should Face Checks
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 12/19/2012 10:31:49 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama Says All Gun Buyers Should Face Checks By JARED A. FAVOLE

WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama on Wednesday said all gun buyers should be subject to background checks, offering his most specific proposal in the wake of the shooting spree at a Connecticut school and setting up a potential fight with gun-rights advocates.

"This time words must lead to action," Mr. Obama said from the White House, where he also announced that Vice President Joe Biden would oversee an effort to get ideas for changing gun and mental-health laws to Congress. "The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing."

Mr. Obama spoke five days after the shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., left 20 children and six adults dead. The shooting has prompted widespread calls for a look at the nation's gun and mental-health laws. The president acknowledged the call for quick change, speaking on a day when more funerals were planned for some of the victims.

Mr. Obama said he wanted Mr. Biden and his cabinet to get concrete ideas to him no later than January, "proposals that I then intend to push without delay." He urged Congress to vote on the measures once they arrive.

Mr. Biden could be essential to getting any changes to gun and mental-health laws through Congress, as he has decades of experience as a senator and often is Mr. Obama's go-to person when the president seeks to build support on Capitol Hill. Mr. Obama said he also chose Mr. Biden because he wrote a 1994 crime bill that led to a drop in violence.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; constrains; constraint; constraits; fastandfurious; guncontrol; gungrabbers; papersplease; secondamendment; transparency
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To: andy58-in-nh

A lot of this is hearsay, we should for the actual facts and not speculate.


61 posted on 12/19/2012 11:36:33 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yes, this keeps being not reported this way.

He actually was denied a gun purchase prior. By the store.

He then went criminal, and stole the guns of a law-abiding gun owner - his mom.


62 posted on 12/19/2012 11:38:05 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: SES1066

stop speaking sense, facts are the enemy of the left, if we want to look at the insane then I suggest look at obama and his little pansy commie , socialist pals.

Keep trying the same thing and expecting a different results is the left.

heard obama say we have to look at what drives violence, I agree , lets look at when traditional families came under atack, lets look at this modern parenting the left promoted, lets look at how society has gone to crap since the traditional family came under attack.

They promoted this garbage and now use guns as an excuse to deflect the attention away from what you said and how they created a society of all about me, spoilt bratty, left alone, kids.


63 posted on 12/19/2012 11:39:19 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wish I had more $ to buy more now, but I’m tapped... and I can’t find any 357 Mag ammo ... sucks to be me.

TT


64 posted on 12/19/2012 11:43:32 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Therefore no Lib should ever be able to own a gun, or hold public office (because they all lie).

That is their logic, lets apply it to them.


65 posted on 12/19/2012 11:43:55 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: manc

I assume you’re referring to the “Communist Goals for America” that was read into the congressional record.

Yes, that’s an excellent argument point to show who they really are.

There are so many of those goals that have been accomplished,
but the kicker is - WHICH PARTY ACCOMPLISHED THEM!!?

Most sheeperals just want the warm fuzzy of advocacy based self righteousness, and they reject any evidence that they support communists,
but the comparison with the Manifesto and the Goals is undeniable.


66 posted on 12/19/2012 11:44:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Duh, do these background checks include AG Eric Holder for his gun-running with his Fast and Furious.

Does his Contempt of Congress put him out of the gun-running business?


67 posted on 12/19/2012 11:50:39 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Communal Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Sub-Driver

You gun owners who registered your guns, will be first in line to be checked.

They just go through all the registered owners to find if he or she has had any kind of criminal charges filed against them ie: Domestic Assault, DUI’s, drug charges, police called to your house for family disputes etc.

For the owners of unregistered guns, they could easily pass a law that if you commit any of the same crimes above(and others)), the police will be given the power to automatically conduct a search of your home for weapons.

If they acquire this kind of power, it’s going to snowball into a nightmare, just check out what happened in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RDWltHxRc


68 posted on 12/19/2012 12:01:42 PM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: Sub-Driver
THE ABSOLUTE FINAL WORD ON THE POST SANDY HOOK GUN GRABBIN ATTEMPT AND THE 2ND AMENDMENT IN GENERAL! ....IT'S BROUGHT TO YOU BY ANN COULTER ON HOWIE CARR'S RADIO SHOW. LISTEN TO OUR FASCINATING BRAINY BEAUTY ANNIE COULTER AS SHE TAKES THE SUBJECT APART DEFTLY DROWNING LEFY, LOONEY GUN GRABBERS IN A NICE HOT FIERY BATH OF ACID LOGIC.............DON'T MISS THIS ONE IT'S.... GREAT!

http://audio.wrko.com/a/68393142/ann-coulter-on-the-shooting-spree-and-reaction.htm


69 posted on 12/19/2012 12:08:59 PM PST by jimsin
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To: RetSignman

Just why does nobama and his loser minions hate Freedom? Could it be that they fear that they will ultimately be exposed as the America-hating losers that they are...and will be brought to justice? Loser degenerates.


70 posted on 12/19/2012 12:11:55 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It took me a minute, but this is a code word, or a dog whistle if you will, that would prohibit private sales of guns. California currently has a law like this: it’s illegal for Sally to simply buy a gun from Fred. They have to agree on a price, and Fred has to take the gun to a licensed dealer. Then, Sally goes to that dealer, pays her $40 fee, fills out a 4470, goes through the NICS check and then her waiting period starts. Ten days later she can go pick up her gun.

Oh, and along the way, California registeres the gun.

So, they’re really talking about doing two things:

1. Banning private sales and;
2. Creating a national registry.

Don’t be fooled. Don’t let them get away with this. Call them out.


71 posted on 12/19/2012 12:13:48 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
They weren’t his guns. They were stolen by him.

Obama can fix that; if you have kids no guns!

72 posted on 12/19/2012 12:26:38 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: ArGee

LMAO. Can I get a “stimulus check” for the next semi automatic we wanted to get for the house? But crap, Dick’s pulled it off the shelf yesterday.


73 posted on 12/19/2012 12:38:04 PM PST by jehardy
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To: andy58-in-nh
The mother was the owner and she was irresponsible enough to provide access to her crazy son.

Hard to say "No." when you're dead. We don't know she gave him access, he may have just taken it.

74 posted on 12/19/2012 1:07:36 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Sub-Driver
(Article) The president acknowledged the call for quick change, speaking on a day when more funerals were planned for some of the victims.

That's right, Barky -- while the bodies are still warm, and before cooler judgment returns. While some people are still downcast with grief, and others demoralized by the nastiness of the criminal.

Like Rahm the ballerina said, one must always take advantage and act in the moment, to catch the People with their guard down, and flimflam them and pick their pockets while they're still in the mortuary, still grieving, still vulnerable.

75 posted on 12/19/2012 1:20:47 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: VanDeKoik
“Obama Says All Gun Buyers Should Face Checks”

Dude! I dont even know what the f*ck your real name is!

Post of the week.

76 posted on 12/19/2012 1:26:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sub-Driver

Bark, bark, bark.....bark, bark.....
Somebody put a shock collar on that thing!!!


77 posted on 12/19/2012 1:27:50 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: MestaMachine
They should be disqualified for past and/or present drug and alcohol use and be drug tested every single month.

They should also have their ferns checked, too. No druggies in the pharmacy, no safecrackers in the jewelry store vault, no peds in the schools. (Arrest Kevin Jennings.)

78 posted on 12/19/2012 1:30:46 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Dr. Sivana
The facts are being ignored. He stole the guns. New background checks would not change this.

with Obamacare the government will have access to all medical records...this could go be a slippery slope if they start using medical info beyond health care.

79 posted on 12/19/2012 1:34:33 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Sub-Driver
ALL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SHOULD FACE BACKGROUND CHECKS

If you're going to be given the key to the nuclear football and seat known Communists in your White House, you HAVE to prove your security clearance and that there is no fraud in your paperwork.

80 posted on 12/19/2012 1:36:17 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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