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1 posted on 12/16/2012 2:17:23 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Yet young whites and Asians still vote for the Affirmative Action Pres__ent. Amazing.


2 posted on 12/16/2012 2:22:04 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: Altura Ct.
Duh. Ever hear of the Bakke case, 1978?
3 posted on 12/16/2012 2:22:46 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Altura Ct.
What do you mean, "even."

Not "even," but "especially."

4 posted on 12/16/2012 2:24:08 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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What do you call the person who graduates at the bottom of the medical school class? Doctor. Quality matters. Mistakes go to the graveyard or spend a lifetime maimed.
5 posted on 12/16/2012 2:31:13 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Altura Ct.
So many of these people just don't understand how detrimental Affirmative Action really is.

If there was no AA, I couldn't less if my doctor looked like Tupac Shakur as long as he had a respectable diploma.

Now....I wouldn't trust any sheepskin on the wall of a black doctor unless I knew him personally or was recommended to me from a trusted source.

Instead....I'll just keep looking down the roster until I find a Cohen or Steinberg.

6 posted on 12/16/2012 2:43:02 PM PST by eddie willers
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Race plays a major part in medical school admissions? Nah, can’t be. The Supreme Court settled that in 1978 in Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 2:54:21 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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A black MD says he greatly opposes Affirmative Action because of how evil it is. And he adds that it hurts his medical career, too. Turns out that most potential patients don’t want his services ... even though he worked his way through medical school on his own merits without “AA”

patients just assume that he MAY have been (or probably was) admitted and passed through based on his race, and so they do not want to risk their lives with him


8 posted on 12/16/2012 2:57:04 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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A quick scan of the documents reveals that white students applying to medical school with a GPA in the 3.40-3.59 range and with an MCAT score in the 21-23 range (a below-average score on a test with a maximal score of 45) had an 11.5% acceptance rate (total of 1,500 applicants meeting these criteria). Meanwhile, a review of minority students (black, Latino, and Native American) with the same GPA and MCAT range had a 42.6% acceptance rate (total of 745 applicants meeting these criteria). Thus, as a minority student with a GPA and MCAT in the aforementioned ranges, you are more than 30% more likely to gain acceptance to a medical school.

Hmmm. Applicants with a 42.6% acceptance rate are more than 3 times more likely (i.e., 300% rather than 30%) to gain acceptance than those with an 11.5% acceptance rate.
11 posted on 12/16/2012 3:14:03 PM PST by irishjuggler
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That actually would be more than 3 times as likely, not 30% more likely, to get accepted.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 3:15:03 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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May all those pushing AA in the selection of future physicians some day end up in an emergency room with their lives in the hands of an Affirmative Action doctor.......


15 posted on 12/16/2012 3:33:40 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Without going into the sordid details, I was harmed by my black dentist’s incompetence. I have to wonder if he was an affirmative action admission to dental school.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 3:36:17 PM PST by TChad
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Sadly, this is why I choose my doctors carefully. And, yes, race is one of the qualifiers.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 3:53:16 PM PST by Jedidah
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28 posted on 12/16/2012 4:03:39 PM PST by narses
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pushing women over men... minorities over whites...

the academic community is pushing to make tomorrows business leaders and high income earners democrats


31 posted on 12/16/2012 4:11:53 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I'll just keep looking down the roster until I find a Cohen or Steinberg.

We work on recommendations for "the best in the area" from friends who were patients or from docs we know personally. Or sometimes, it's somebody we were given during a visit to the Emergency Room who impressed the heck out of us. That usually turns out to be a white male, usually a Jew or Catholic who worked his way through college and graduated from one of the "name" medical schools. Did come up with one female dermatologist that way (from the Philippines). She was great, but it's hard to book her, because she doesn't work as many office hours as the males in her group. I think she has a family.

And we've been seen by a fair number of clueless, cold, female weirdos, especially in OB-GYN, who seemed like lesbos, whom we blew off STAT. There must be a lesbo quota in some of these schools, too.

42 posted on 12/16/2012 5:32:12 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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As I’ve always said, no way would I ever let a black surgeon cut into me.
I’ll take my chances waiting in line for the white surgeon, thank you.


50 posted on 12/16/2012 5:53:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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[Article] Meanwhile, a review of minority students (black, Latino, and Native American) with the same GPA and MCAT range had a 42.6% acceptance rate (total of 745 applicants meeting these criteria). Thus, as a minority student with a GPA and MCAT in the aforementioned ranges, you are more than 30% more likely to gain acceptance to a medical school.

If I were a white-trash fringey tinfoiler drinking straight bourbon all night in a beat-up trailer in Kingman, Arizona, four slots down from the space where Timothy McVeigh used to live, I might infer from the above and tell my drinking buddies that the PTB are preparing a genocidal pogrom of elderly whites, and are recruiting doctors they feel will be more "approachable" for the "end-of-life" jobs.

But then I don't read those websites.

62 posted on 12/16/2012 11:02:36 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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This is no surprise to me. My son, a 2009 graduate of Pepperdine University, with a 3.79 GPA and a score of 32 on the MCAT (average score is 26 BTW)was only accepted to two of the 18 schools to which he applied. Neither were schools he decided to attend as they were both far from home and on the high end of the tuition scale. Neither were large or well known schools. He was wait listed at 5 other schools but did not move off the list.

When he began the process, which is a miserable endeavor in and of itself, he was given a list of schools that he was most likely to be accepted into with his “numbers.”

What I observed in the secondaries were essay questions that made it obvious the selection committees were interest in two things; was he a minority with a deprived or underprivileged background or did he have a hook, i.e. was he gay or did he have a handicap or disability or had he overcome some tremendous obstacle in his life?

We really had to struggle to answer some of the questions because he is a normal young man, bright, dedicated, competent and hard working, but he comes from a two parent family, lived in the same house all his life and never faced a tragedy or hardship.

He decided not to go through the application process again because it’s stressful and costly so he will not be a doctor.

I told him many times during those times that if God’s will was for him to do this with his life, he would be accepted and go, end of story. He was not and therefore will not, so God must have other plans for him.

As it stands now, with Obamacare the law of the land, I think it was actually a blessing that he will not be going into massive debt to be a part of the deteriorating medical profession.

A blessing, but still it stings. Especially after seeing this.


72 posted on 12/17/2012 6:08:15 PM PST by Jvette
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and in Fire Departments and Police Departments.

Isn’t that great?


77 posted on 12/18/2012 7:34:34 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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