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After Newtown shooting, it’s time to have that ‘national conversation on guns’ (Codrea)
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Posted on 12/15/2012 6:18:01 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

To anyone who may be persuaded that “a national conversation” on guns and violence in society is needed, rather than automatically accepting the assumptions of those who think it ought to begin with calling for more citizen disarmament edicts, answer one question first:

If you saw someone methodically murdering children and you could get your hands on a gun, would you use it to stop him?

Yes or no? There’s no time for equivocation. Every second you hesitate, another innocent is being slaughtered.

If you answered “no,” you’re an irredeemable coward, unfit for the company of free men and women, and deserving of the slavery you accept and would impose on your betters. We will hold no conversation with despicable domestic enemy wretches the likes of you. Go away, leave us alone, or bring it on. We will not disarm.

If you answered “yes,” then ask yourself since when it’s in anyone’s interests to bare his throat to someone who would slash it? And just as being armed, trained, prepared and willing can discourage an individual aggressor, do they also not, as Thomas Paine observed, “keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property”? Would not “horrid mischief … ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them”?

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; codrea; sandyhookgundefense; shallnotbeinfringed; shooting; youwillnotdisarmus
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Excellent article by Codrea. Longer than the source excerpted.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 6:18:06 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA; marktwain; Joe Brower

2 posted on 12/15/2012 6:21:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s time for SCOTUS to get off its @$$ and “decide” that the Second Amendment is an individual right guaranteed to EVERY AMERICAN and that it doesn’t have anything to do with hunting or the National Guard. Enough beating around the bush.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 6:21:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The left is not interested in a National Conversation on guns - any more than they were interested in a national conversation on healthcare.

They’re going to disarm us.

Anything short of that will be shouted down as evil extremism.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 6:23:29 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Off topic Codrea article. Worth your time. Ping.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 6:24:16 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Travis McGee

BTTT. Codrea gets it.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 6:27:52 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: Tzimisce

Good thing I lost all my guns in a boating accident, aint’ it? *WINK*


7 posted on 12/15/2012 6:29:54 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Tzimisce
They’re going to disarm us.

Um, no.

8 posted on 12/15/2012 6:30:12 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: Tzimisce

My rights are not theirs to take.

They are not the source of my rights, and I will not yield my rights to them.

I will defend my rights.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 6:30:23 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Travis McGee

The thing that always strikes me about that drawing is the fundamental truth. Ignore the “good people” and “bad people” labels. What is left?

Armed equals alive.

Disarmed equals dead.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 6:31:45 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Tzimisce
They’re going to disarm us.

Then they should prepare to die.

11 posted on 12/15/2012 6:32:02 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It all comes down to “Do you bare your throat to Obama”, and use’em or lose’em time.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 6:32:13 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Red in Blue PA

If we are going to talk about guns anyway, let’s also talk about ARMED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that sneak across our porous border that Janet Napolitano refuses to seal off. Are we just supposed to be sitting ducks for those criminals?? Maybe some liberal can explain THAT to me?


13 posted on 12/15/2012 6:32:13 PM PST by bergmeid (FUBO)
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To: Tzimisce

No, they’re not even going to try. But they’ll pander to their dumbed down leech base and then blame “evil Republicans” for failing.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 6:34:49 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"It’s time for SCOTUS to get off its @$$ and “decide” that the Second Amendment is an individual right..."

I bet I know how John Roberts will vote...


15 posted on 12/15/2012 6:40:27 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s high time to put a halt to gun-crazed Hollywood. The majority of television shows, movies, and video games are violent.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 6:46:34 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Tzimisce
They’re going to disarm us.

If you're willing to make that unequivocal statement in a place such as this, then it's a foregone conclusion that, should that moment come, you will willingly surrender your arms and beg for mercy from your oppressors.

Good luck to you. I choose differently.

17 posted on 12/15/2012 6:48:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
It’s high time to put a halt to gun-crazed Hollywood. The majority of television shows, movies, and video games are violent.

I agree. Link any such AWB to a Hollywood ban and see just how far it gets when it impacts the accounts of the Hollyweirdos.
18 posted on 12/15/2012 6:52:17 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Time for a conversation on mental health system is more appropriate.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 6:54:51 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’ve been a NRA member for most of my life and here are a few of my observations. After which I will get flamed.
1. As an owner of many firearms, I would give them all up if I thought they would save the lives of these precious kindergarteners.( I do not think this would happen)

2. This horrific, demonic, evil killing is an extension of liberals wantonly killing over 50 million babies via abortion.

3. Our country is a post Christian country that wants nothing to do with God’s laws. Evil always attacks the innocent children 1st.

4. There are some aspects of the gun culture that I believe need to be curbed. People obsessed with AR type rifles and extended magazines should carefully check their motives to make sure they are there to protect the truly innocent.

5. This is the 5th or so senseless slaying of innocents in the past few years, Something is seriously amiss in American Culture.

6. People with any degree of aggressive mental health problems should be prevented from owning firearms (I know this would not have helped the present situation)

7. Because of our nihilistic culture and our dismissal of God from our public life, It is necessary to put metal detectors and armed policeman in our public schools.

8. having said all of this I do stand by my moniker. All competent Americans have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. With it comes tremendous responsibility. Anything we say in the days ahead should be prefaced with concern and prayers for the 20 some innocent children that had their lives snuffed out by a deranged, probably video-gamed brainwashed moral cretin who should have been institutionalized at the 1st hint of homicidal behavior.


20 posted on 12/15/2012 6:58:58 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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