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28 Dead, Including 20 Children, After Shooting Rampage At Sandy Hook School In Newtown
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story ^ | 12/14/12

Posted on 12/14/2012 7:46:45 AM PST by marthemaria

Edited on 12/14/2012 9:12:15 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

State police are responding to a report of a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dickinson Drive, school officials said.

Police are reporting a number of injured parties. The nature of their injuries is not clear.

There are unconfirmed reports of two shooters

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To: Fawn

Just go about your day and come back tomorrow when the facts are sorted out. Today’s reporting is just one giant CF.


1,041 posted on 12/14/2012 1:53:33 PM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: ez

ez:
Jared Lee Loughner (Tucson,AZ) - 23 yo white male.
Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT) - 20 yo white male
James Eagan Holmes (Aurora, CO) - 24 yo white male.
Jacob Tyler Roberts (Oregon mall) - 22 yo white male
Eric David Harris (Colulumbine, CO) - 19 yo white male
Dylan Bennet Klebold (Columbine, CO) - 17 yo white male
Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City, OK) - 27 yo white male
...

Reply:

You leave me no choice: Overly simplistic.

(1) a selected (cherry picked) list (IOW, you have a select statistical population you have picked, i.e., high-profile individuals who drew news attention due the high visibility of their acts)

(2) individuals picked up by law enforcement or reported by family who were *not* able to commit high-profile acts are not part of your statistical sample ‘population’.

(3) It is too early in a couple of the cases you cite to draw the kind of inferences you are drawing now.

BTW, you should really take this up with storm front dot you-know-where for a discussion of the specific ‘races’ involved ... you might be surprised ...


1,042 posted on 12/14/2012 1:53:48 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: ColdOne
Bookmarking at your post ColdOne. Have to do a retreat.
1,043 posted on 12/14/2012 1:53:57 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I’ve read he turned a gun on himself.

Guess they’ll confirm with powder detection. If not, this could get weird: is Ryan trying to frame his brother? Why was
he in the woods?


1,044 posted on 12/14/2012 1:53:57 PM PST by txhurl (Zero on America: Drive it like you stole it)
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To: MissMagnolia

a freeper mentioned 22 kids stabbed in China today, guess we shoudl ban knives in China and ignore the failed social issues the left has done and the failed parenting of today


1,045 posted on 12/14/2012 1:53:57 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yes, it’s a bit frustrating, but to be expected.


1,046 posted on 12/14/2012 1:54:00 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: P.O.E.

He forgot to mention Øbamacare too.


1,047 posted on 12/14/2012 1:54:09 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: manc
I’m sick of hearing already about guns, it;s the failed social policies of the left which has created this mess and kids which have big mental problems.

It's not the guns; it is the culture.

1,048 posted on 12/14/2012 1:54:28 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Agreed.
WAY upthread, someone said that he was shot by an armed staffmember of the school.
That’s why I was asking.


1,049 posted on 12/14/2012 1:54:37 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: ez

Well there was the black man and boy who shot at cars gassing up - Muslim

There was the Ft hood shooter - Muslim

There was the man who shot at the Isreal Airline counter - Muslim

Others?


1,050 posted on 12/14/2012 1:55:00 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Aurorales
I never assumed anything regarding parental responsibility or lack thereof, but I hate it when people assume that every bad kid must have had a bad upbringing, because that's not always true either. While upbringing is probably 9/10 of the issue it isn't 100% because children aren't raised in total isolation. When you raise eight kids and number 6 “refuses to be raised” or veers from his or her upbringing it's not necessarily parenting that is the problem if the other 7 are good; there are other influences besides parents in the world, and sometimes it is simply “self.” where there is no one to blame but the perp. What works on 7 kids may not work on another. Sometimes the black sheep returns to the fold but sometimes the black sheep tries to live among the wolves and is consumed.
1,051 posted on 12/14/2012 1:55:24 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The brother, Ryan, is being questioned and in custody in Hoboken, NJ.

Well, someone found in the woods near the school was taken into custody. He was wearing camouflage pants, per some reports.

Shooter was also wearing camouflage pants.

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Before you get to bent out of shape from others' posts, remember that this IS still developing. For half of the day, 'Ryan' was the shooter, now it is Adam or Andrew.

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Then, there is/are the body/bodies at the mother's house. It/they have not been identified yet.
1,052 posted on 12/14/2012 1:55:42 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: RandallFlagg

No nothing yet. Bob Orr said there will probably be no more information from the police today.

They have been focusing on the White House response, such as “stand by, we have a video of the White House flag at half mast” and Major Garret on Obama’s tears.


1,053 posted on 12/14/2012 1:56:16 PM PST by Selene
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To: who knows what evil?

When you’re running record high levels of youth unemployment in the US, have entire generations that spend ALL their time playing hack and slash video games, and a culture that sells violence like it was a commodity, how can this be at all surprising to anyone?

The culture is rotten. America is done, barring a spiritual/cultural rennaissance that appears very unlikely at this point.


1,054 posted on 12/14/2012 1:57:06 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: dragnet2

GTH...can’t get any more morbid or disrespectful than your statement.


1,055 posted on 12/14/2012 1:57:19 PM PST by Fawn (GIVE OBAMA EVERYTHING HE WANTS--Get out of they way for BLAME)
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To: marthemaria

WFSB Reported that the Brady Bunch has already made a statement, using the victims to further their goal.


1,056 posted on 12/14/2012 1:57:36 PM PST by matt04
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To: Selene

Okay. Thank you.


1,057 posted on 12/14/2012 1:57:50 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: manc

Er what kind of parents rasie kids to get guns and kill children?

___________________________

Parents dont raise their children to kill others...our cutlure does. And there is a point where parents cannot keep the culture out.


1,058 posted on 12/14/2012 1:58:19 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: marthemaria

Twenty-seven people, including 20 children, are dead after a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The gunman killed himself inside the school.

Another person was found dead at 36 Yogananda St. in Newtown, sources told The Courant.

The shootings at the school took place in two rooms, one of which is a kindergarten classroom, sources said. One entire classroom is unaccounted for.

The shooter is dead inside the school, and the situation is secure, said State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance.

There were conflicting reports about the identity of the shooter.

Several news outlets, including The Associated Press and CNN, initially identified the shooter as Ryan Lanza and said his younger brother was being held for questioning as a possible second shooter.

The Associated Press is now reporting that the suspect is Adam Lanza, the younger brother, and that the older brother is being questioned.

CNN is no longer identifying the shooter.

A law enforcement official said the boys’ mother, Nancy Lanza, works at the school as a teacher. The Associated Press is reporting that she is presumed dead.

The official also said Ryan Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend are missing in New Jersey.

Another official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way, said the gunman apparently had two guns. A law enforcement official in Washington said one of the guns was a .223-caliber rifle.

President Obama, in an emotional address to the nation Friday afternoon, said “These neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children.”

“I know there’s not a parent in American who doesn’t feel the same overwhelming grief that I do,” he said. “The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. … They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own.”

“Among the fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to help their children achieve their dreams,” he said.

Like other parents around the country, Obama said, “This evening, Michelle and I will ... hug our children a little tighter and tell them that we love them … but there are families in Connecticut who cannot do that tonight.”

“While nothing can fill the space of a lost child or a loved one, all of us can extend a hand to those in need, to remind them that we are there for them, that we are praying for them, that the love they felt for the ones they have lost will endure in their memories but also in ours.”

Public records show that Ryan Lanza lived at 36 Yogananda St. at one point, and he is also listed as living at 1313 Grand St. in Hoboken, N.J. Police are searching that residence as well, sources say.

Three people were brought to Danbury Hospital. Their injuries are not confirmed. The emergency room is on lockdown.

Shortly after 9:40 a.m., police reported that a shooter was in the main office of the school. A person in one room had “numerous gunshot wounds,” police said.

Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers. Some students were still in the school at 10:30 a.m., parents said.

Police were still searching the school at 11 a.m., and police dogs were brought in. Around noon, the triage area was broken down, stretchers were taken away and the SWAT team left the building.

Sandy Hook Elementary has nearly 700 students in kindergarten through fourth grade. Its doors are locked at 9:30 a.m., and visitors are required to sign in, according to the school’s website.

School and local emergency officials were accounting for the children, who were released to their parents. Some parents were sequestered at the Sandy Hook fire department, directly in front of the school.

By 4 p.m., somber groups of families were leaving the firehouse, many accompanied by police or firefighters.

Other frustrated parents were desperately trying to get information from officials as they searched the school.

Vanessa Bajraliu, a 9-year-old fourth grader, heard the shots.

“I saw policemen — lots of policemen in the hallway with guns,” she said. “The police took us out of the school. We were told to hold each others’ hands and to close our eyes. We opened our eyes when we were outside.”

Her brother, 17-year-old Mergim Bajraliu, a senior at Newtown High School, was at his nearby home when he heard shots, he said. He first went to a neighbor’s house.

“Then we heard sirens,” he said.

He rushed to the school on foot and saw a girl being carried out, he said. She looked badly injured. Another girl had blood on her face, he said.

Mergim soon found his sister and took her away from the scene.

Parent Richard Wilford said his Sandy Hook second-grader, Richie, heard what he described as “pans falling” when gunshots rang out. He said that his son told him that the teacher went to go check, came back in and locked the door and told the students to stand in the corner.

“What does a parent think about coming to a school where there’s a shooting” It’s the most terrifying moment of a parent’s life … you have no idea,” said Wilford.

Brendan Murray, a 9-year-old 4th grader, said he was in the gym with his class when they heard “lots of banging.” He said the teachers put the students in a nearby closet where they stayed for about 15 minutes before police officers told them to leave the building.

The boy said the students ran down a hallway where there were police at every door. He said “lots of people were crying.”

Eight-year-old Alexis Wasik, a third-grader at the school, said police were checking everybody inside the school before they were escorted to the firehouse.

“We had to walk with a partner,” she said.

One child leaving the school said that there was shattered glass everywhere. A police officer ran into the classroom and told them to run outside and keep going until the reach the firehouse.

Audra Barth, who was walking away from the school with her first-grade son and third-grade daughter, says a teacher took first-graders into the restroom after bullets came through the window.

Students at nearby Newtown High School on Berkshire Road were stunned Friday when they learned of the shootings.

Senior Alex Buttery said when she learned the shootings had taken place on Dickinson Drive – where the school is located – “I immediately thought of Sandy Hook,” she said. “It’s devastating.”

Buttery, walking out of the school Friday afternoon with her friend Clare Donnelly, said she’d cried a lot today.

Donnelly said “it’s hard to wrap your head around” the shooting. “It’s difficult to watch [young children] go through this.”

Junior Renee Henriques said she was “shocked, speechless” by the shootings.

Buttery said she had been texting back and forth with her mother all day. “I went there,” she said of Sandy Hook School. “I know the teachers. I’m just wondering who it is.” Her mother, she said, was very emotional. They “know a lot of neighbors who go to Sandy Hook.”

NHS student Stefanie Carr said she was having a hard time processing what had happened. “I just couldn’t process how I felt. I’m still trying to get over it.”

All of the students had the same question: “Why someone would do that to the children.”

Newtown United Methodist Church opened the doors around noon after ministers there heard of the tragedy. Brad Tefft, a bereavement minister at the church, drove in and opened the doors.

“I better get down there. It’s in our neighborhood,” Tefft remembered thinking.

He created a sign that said “prayer vigil,” which he placed out by the street, and also put a sign on the door saying sanctuary open.

“We are taught to listen and offer that cold cup of water when necessary,” Tefft said.

As word spread of the magnitude of the tragedy in Newtown, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy talked on the telephone Friday with President Obama about the incident and held a press conference after Obama addressed the nation.

“Earlier today, a tragedy of unspeakable terms played itself out in this community,” he said. “You can never be prepared for this incident.”

“Beautiful children had their lives taken away from them, as well as adults whose responsibility it is to supervise and take care of those children,” Malloy said.

Malloy spent time with the families, said Roy Occhiogrosso, Malloy’s senior adviser.

“He is attempting to make sure they get the information they need. It is an unspeakable scene.’’

Malloy ordered state and U.S. flags to be flown at half-staff.

In Washington, D.C., House Speaker John Boehner ordered flags at the U.S. Capitol to be flown at half-staff.

State officials reacted with shock and alarm to the shootings at the Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, where multiple people were killed this morning by a gunman.

House Republican leader Larry Cafero and Senate President Pro Tem Donald Williams were both stunned upon hearing that 27 had been killed. Cafero put his hand over his mouth in an immediate reaction.

“The governor is on scene,’’ Doba said. “He has spoken to the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, which has pledged any resources we need.’’

The state departments of public health, education, mental health and addiction services, and the state police are all working on the incident.

Incoming U.S. Rep. Elizabeth Esty, who represents Newtown as part of the 5th Congressional District, said, “As a mother, I can only begin to imagine what the students, parents, teachers and staff of Sandy Hook Elementary must be experiencing. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific tragedy. While details are still emerging, I hope for the safety and well being of the children, teachers and staff at Sandy Hook Elementary and for the Newtown community.’’

Incoming U.S. Sen. Chris Murphy arrived at the firehouse around 2:30 p.m. and went to talk with parents.

Afternoon buses and kindergarten has been cancelled. The entire Newton district is on lockdown, and other school districts took similar measures across the state.

In West Hartford, Superintendent Karen List sent a recorded message to families Friday noting an increased police presence at town schools after the Newtown shootings.

“It’s really for reassurance,” List said. Counselors will also be available for students at the schools, and West Hartford administrators are now creating a set of talking points for parents if they decide to explain the shootings to their children over the weekend.

A meeting of Farmington Valley-area superintendents that was scheduled for Friday was canceled.

“We need to be in our districts,” List said. “We need to be communicating with our families, we need to be supporting our faculty and children.”

Southington schools were placed on a precautionary “passive lockdown” in which exterior doors are locked, Assistant Superintendent Karen Smith said. “We’re asking all administrators to be vigilant and to be aware of what is going on.”

In Waterbury, Wilby, Crosby and Kennedy high schools have canceled Friday’s afternoon and night games, according to the school system. Other after-school activities for Waterbury schools will go on as planned, but there will be police on the premises.

Bridgeport Superintendant of Schools Paul G. Vallas has canceled all after school programs except for the Central High School basketball game.

All Winterfest Hartford activities in Bushnell Park in Hartford will be closed today. The skating rink is closed effective immediately and will re-open tomorrow on regular schedule.

Schools in the Pomperaug Regional School District 15, based in nearby Southbury and Middlebury, were put on lockdown after the shootings, Superintendent Frank Sippy said. After-school and weekend activities were canceled.

“Everyone is searching for the reason why — why such a senseless tragedy has to transpire in this country,” Sippy said.

“We’ll take the weekend to reflect. I just think it’s time for people to step back and take a breath and spend time with loved ones,” said Sippy, who has offered the district’s services to Newtown schools.

The only mass shooting in the U.S. with more than 27 killed since the 1950s took place on April 16, 2007, when a student named Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people at Virginia Tech in Blackburg, Va., before shooting himself.

On May 18, 1927, Andrew Kehoe, school board treasurer in Bath Township, Michigan, bombed three schools, killing 38 children, two teachers and four other adults, as well as himself, because he was enraged by higher taxes to fund a new school.


1,059 posted on 12/14/2012 1:58:50 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Vendome
A law enforcement source told CBS News two pistols, a Sig and a Glock, were found in the school and a Bushmaster rifle was found in a car. A preliminary trace shows that the guns belonged to Lanza.

from here

The rifle was never used in the school. It was in the trunk of the shooter's car. The media repeat it was found at the scene with two handguns. It was not. Even the ATF said only two handguns were found in the school.
1,060 posted on 12/14/2012 1:59:07 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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