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1 posted on 12/11/2012 9:50:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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the only way the federal budget can be cut is to cut every agency the same. that way no one is exempt, nobody gets favored over any other, everybody shares. cut every agency 1% per year and see what happens.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 9:52:50 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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“Republicans don’t favor much in any potential deal — they also, of course, are opposed to allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on any income bracket.”

He means BUSH’S TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH! There was no tax cut for the middle class. At least that’s what Democrats and the MSM told us for 8 years.

All of a sudden the narrative changed. And Republicans didn’t even offer up a whimper.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 9:54:12 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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But a new Marist-McClatchy poll shows that voters — including Republicans — oppose any and every specific spending cut proposed to them.

Of course they do. These are the spending cuts that the Democrats came up with. You want to cut spending? Fine. Cut 10% across the board for everything. Eliminate the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Education. Cut the Department of Energy by 75% and fold the remainder into the Department of Interior. Kill Obamacare in its tracks. Kill HUD and FHA. And for Pete's sake, STOP GIVING FOOD STAMPS TO FAT PEOPLE!

4 posted on 12/11/2012 9:56:25 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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Not one of those is a “SPENDING CUT”!


5 posted on 12/11/2012 9:58:21 AM PST by ImAmerican
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What about the spending cuts that have not been proposed - like cutting foreign aid, food stamps, and all other forms of welfare...


7 posted on 12/11/2012 10:01:03 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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Why don't they ask if we can completely eliminate Obamacare and all these stupid government agencies that waste money and cripple the private sector as in the EPA, FDA, etc?

The stupid liberal media never mentions my plan:

1. abolish the EPA, Obamacare
2. get rid of the FCC, FEC, FDA, HUD, government schools, dept of energy, OFCCP(affirmative action), IRS, etc., medicaid, foodtamps, welfare, government housing(Projects) etc. etc.

Why is that tyrannical, socialist, crap needed ?

8 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:13 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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RE :”The “compromise” in the fiscal cliff deal from Democrats is supposed to come in the form of spending cuts. But a new Marist-McClatchy poll shows that voters — including Republicans — oppose any and every specific spending cut proposed to them.
It goes hand in hand with the disparity between voters’ wish for blanket “spending cuts” and their opposition to any cuts to an entitlement that benefits them. A look at what Republicans oppose:
By 47-37, letting the Obama payroll tax cut expire.
By 68-26, cutting spending for Medicare.
By 61-33, cutting spending for Medicaid.
By 66-28, eliminating the tax deduction for home mortgage interest.
By 72-25, eliminating the charitable tax deduction.
By 56-44, raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67. “

Some of those are tax related: like ones a SS/FICA tax to pay for SS(still debt) , another is a deduction, but its a great point, cold water on a cold day.

Republicans all agree they dont like Obama, and agree on the general idea that we need spending cuts (except defense, SS or medicare), but that is about it.
That is why Ryan's plan cut, err reformed, err I mean saved, LOL, medicare 10 years in the future. Not a promising sign.

9 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding among socialists of what exactly is a spending cut.

Increasing the intake of funds, IS NOT THE SAME AS REDUCING OUTFLOW OF FUNDS.

Example of a spending cut:

Firing half of the staff of the Department of Education. The cash savings associated with their salaries can rightly be called a spending cut.


10 posted on 12/11/2012 10:04:19 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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As a conservative that votes Republican, I support all spending cut backs!


13 posted on 12/11/2012 10:08:22 AM PST by Shark24
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The puppet show to keep the masses occupied as their chains are readied. This Congress and the MSM have become reduced to the absurd. I wish I could just change the channel.

But this is not a reality show, it is reality. And the damage done to the Titanic is enough that I don't want to head back to the dining room and sing songs with the Choir.

The world is now going to change, and not for the better. 5 years from now, nobody will care about any of this horse manure.

You want to cut the military budget? Try cutting the 20 brand new F16’s being delivered to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, or the brand new M1 tanks. See what I mean by a puppet show of the absurd?

Why do we pretend this Cliff crap is real? When Boner loaded the deck for the democrats, Congress lost its last 2% of credibility. Nothing left but the smoke and mirrors.

14 posted on 12/11/2012 10:09:19 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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I head a report on FNC that Steny Hoyer took to the house floor and said the Republicans have no plan “How are they going to pay for all these spending cuts they want”(paraphrased). I just had to laugh!


15 posted on 12/11/2012 10:10:03 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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By 66-28, eliminating the tax deduction for home mortgage interest.

By 72-25, eliminating the charitable tax deduction.


Those are “spending”? Guess it all is their money.

Why not just “tax” everybody 100%, then give us all an “allowance”?

When is enough enough?

When I think of spending cuts, what comes to mind, for starters, is:

50% at TSA & related;

100% at Dept of Ed;

75% at EPA and related;

25-50% (for starters) at Dept of Energy, not including chopping 100% of all “research” grants for green (pockets) energy “research” & “investment”;

repeal of Obamacare, with all its huge costs.


16 posted on 12/11/2012 10:10:03 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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If we were a democracy, we could poll the voters and ask them where they would like the cuts to take place. As indicated on this poll, the voters would answer "Nowhere" because every program has its fans.

But we are a republic. We have elected leaders. And that's what's missing: Leadership. The folks in Washington are supposed to be ignoring the voters, they are supposed to be looking at the numbers, and they are supposed to be making hard choices on things like entitlement program and, yes, even on defense.

But our leaders do not lead. They follow the polls. And so nothing is done.

17 posted on 12/11/2012 10:11:37 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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LMAO...

Notice the Leftist programs like welfare, housing payments, AFDS, extended unemployment, food stamps, school breakfasts and lunches, government day care, free phones, health care and other services for illegal aliens and the like are not listed there.

Another-words, the Republicans are evil if they don’t want the Left to be able to buy voters.

Everything that has been submitted for cuts, involves the military, medicare, and or social security.

Of these, only the military is something our government is suppose to expend funds for. By contract (implicit) with citizens, medicare, and social security are agreed to by citizens.

The list of Leftist goodies are not something citizens have signed on to. They don’t contribute funds for them.

Why are they the last to be addressed every single time?


18 posted on 12/11/2012 10:11:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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Why didn't they offer the choice of funding the EPA and Education departmentz at their 2007 levels, or eliminating them.

How about reducing the size of the federal nonmilitary work force?

There are plenty of spending cuts conservatives will get behind.

20 posted on 12/11/2012 10:17:02 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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I didn't read the article, just the excerpt, but why are they calling it a spending cut to let taxes expire? That's not a spending cut, that's a tax increase.

Words mean things.

22 posted on 12/11/2012 10:18:38 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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Clearly the public does not understand the concept of Baseline Budgeting.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 10:20:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Good morning.

One year of added age eligibility to each age quintile beginning at 40, solves funding for both Medicare and SS. For example: persons who are 40 at Jan 1 20xx can retire and get Medicare/SS at age 66 (no early op in). Persons who are 35 at Jan 1 20xx can retire and get Medicare/SS at age 67. Age 30, 68, age 25, 69 and age 20, 70. This way the ponzi scheme makes it to 2060 (more births than deaths gets us further out). And it's "fair," whatever that means.

Lowers the unfunded liabilities too, but it seems that doesn't matter to a majority of people for some reason.

Please feel free to check the math (actuarial tables, 15.3% rate, census, etc.)

5.56mm

24 posted on 12/11/2012 10:20:58 AM PST by M Kehoe
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The "compromise" in the fiscal cliff deal from Democrats is supposed to come in the form of spending cuts. But a new Marist-McClatchy poll shows that voters — including Republicans — oppose any and every specific spending cut proposed to them.

Noting that the states should be providing the government services that the corrupt federal government is now wrongly providing, the widespread opposition to federal spending cuts indicates to me how widespread ignorance of the Constitution is, particularly the Founding States' division of federal and state government powers which is the main purpose of the Constitution.

As I've mentioned in other threads, based on the Founder's division of federal and state government powers evidenced by the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment, Justice John Marshall had officially clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes for anything that it cannot justify under Section 8. This is essentialy postal services (Article I, Section 8, Clause 7) where domestic-related federal government services are concerned.

So the Constitution was actually knocked off its foundation in a big way as a consequence of widespread ignorance of the Constitution when voters unthinkingly allowed FDR to tear it to pieces. And Obama, along with the help of Obama guard dog Fx News, is just finishing the job.

I'm to the point where I think that voters can sleep in the bed that they have made for themselves.

29 posted on 12/11/2012 10:39:10 AM PST by Amendment10
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I support spending cuts - specifically cutting federal spending by $500B for 2013, another $400B below 2013 spending for 2014, and another $400B below 2014 spending for 2015. I could list the specific cuts, and they would all make Chrissy Matthews cry like a little girl, but none of them would hurt America anywhere near as much as the reckless spending does.

Our target budget should be Clinton's last budget, adjusted upward for inflation and population growth, with EVERYTHING beyond that level requiring a line item vote for approval, one line item at a time. The democrats are advocating child abuse when they have giveaways for the special interest groups that deliver their votes and then borrow money so our children are paying for the far left to buy votes. Even that target is actually extravagant and should be cut even further.

30 posted on 12/11/2012 10:42:08 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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