The Marxist Plan to Bankrupt the United States: Is History Repeating Itself?

Original research into FBI archives | 12/10/2012 | FReeper Fedora

[Captainpaintball]

bflr

[windsorknot]

The only good Marxist is a dead Marxist.

[Fedora]

Thanks for sharing the personal experience. I vaguely recall coming across a Congressional or California Congressional investigation into the roots of the Watts riots that had some information identifying some of the forces behind it. I’d need to refresh my memory on the details but off the top of my head, I came across it while researching the history of the Los Angeles CP and what became the nucleus of the LA branch of the BPP there a few years later.

[Fedora]

Yes, the Soviet Union ended, but Marxism was older than the USSR and it survived by shifting its base of operations and tactics, using springboards like the former East Germany, Cuba and Latin American Marxist groups, and left-wing groups and political factions in France and the US, notably the DSA lobby within the Democratic Party. A conservative friend from France who had moved here once told me that the only difference between the platform of the French Socialist Party and the American Democrats he could detect was that the Democrats didn’t call themselves Socialists.

[bluecat6]

I wonder if anyone notices or cares that Social Security receipts have declined the last 3 years.

From the WH’s own data:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/

Table 2.1

Actual s for total SS receipts
2008 - 900,155
2009 - 890,917
2010 - 864,814
2011 - 818,792

This is not due to the 2% reduction either. Congress injects (borrowed) funds in to offset that.

So? We have been in a recession - right?

The alarming part of this is that NEVER in the history of Social Security was there EVER a downturn in receipts. Even in the worst previous recessions. And certainly nothing anywhere near close to a 3 year running trend.

This metric alone tells us how fast the tables are turning.

And look at the projections for the next 3 years.

2012 - 840,650
2013 - 959,057
2014 - 1,038,701

There has not been 10% YTY growth since the late 1980s. The estimate for 2012 is probably overly rosy. But 2013 is pure fantasy.

The point of this being using the tables at the link above it easy to see the bankruptcy happening right before our eyes.

[Fedora]

Thanks for the perspective helping to put some of this in historical context. I have been able to trace the roots of the black/white extremist convergence back to Germany’s sabotage network during the World Wars, which the Soviets effectively inherited through Lenin and Trotsky’s network and its successors. Basically, the Germans would recruit any subsversive group that could hamper the US, including black nationalist groups during the pre-WWII and WWII period. From there the convergence becomes more pronounced during the 1960s period where you pick up, and your analysis sounds on-track to me.

When you mention Jack O’Dell, I’ll add Stanley Levison as an important figure in that development connecting Soviet operatives to the American network. Castro’s Cuba also had its hand in the mix early, even before the BPP was created they were organizing similar sabotage groups in the US in the 1962-1963 period as I recall. Subsequently various Stalinist vs. Trots vs. Maoist rivalries created a bunch of different factions that get a little convoluted to sum up, but the bottom line is that these types of groups proliferated over the late 60s into the early 70s, steering the civil rights movement increasingly from protest to confrontational tactics until you had full-blown terrorist groups like the SLA. The NWRO was a part of this development, forming a bridge between the early 60s civil rights groups and the more extreme groups of the late 60s and early 70s.

Finally, speaking of Jesse Jackson, I believe there is a lot of important data there that went under the radar because of how badly he and Walter Mondale got crushed in the 1984 campaign, and my feeling is a close review of the ‘84 campaign might be productive. Some of the far-left forces in the Jackson campaign attached themselves to Mondale to resurface under Clinton, a similar dynamic to what happened in 2004 with the fringe elements brought in by Kucinich, Kerry, etc. paving the way for Obama.

[Fedora]

Thanks, LucyT!

[Fedora]

At some point the math is going to catch up with their ability to cover their tracks, and then it is going to get much uglier than it is now.

[rockinqsranch]

bflr

[RhoTheta]

Ping for further study

[Travis McGee]

[Travis McGee]

[Darksheare]

Connecting some dots.
John Kerry -vvaw.
Works with/for Obama.
One degree of sep there.

Yes, history is repeating itself.

[Travis McGee]

To defeat Alinsky tactics, you must use Alinsky tactics. Same as if you are in a street fight. You can't win by the Queensbury rules if the other guy is free to cheat.

So I say, give them both barrels in the black propaganda dept.

[capt B]

Check Amazon books— “None Dare Call it Treason- John Stormer. Also, “None Dare Call It Treason-25 years Later”- John Stormer. Everyone should read these books to see the “progress” the commies have made

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Cloward-Piven.

[Hotlanta Mike]

It worked in the Soviet Union, as other former once great empires around the world.

[freekitty]

You are probably right.

[Yollopoliuhqui]

Maybe we should connect the dots to rapacious banking practices and commodity swindles. You are not going to tell me that “marxists” created the debt instrument that miraculously got rated AAA then insured and sold around the world in an idiot scheme to “lessen exposure” by the blinkered expedient of assuming that risk spread out among more clients equated to a lessening of risk in toto. That just gave us a global collapse rather than a local collapse.

Let’s get some adequate target acquisition here. Those grasping, short sighted, dollar junkies were anything but “marxist”. They were capito-monopolist sociopaths in need of personal “regulation” by real Americans.

[r-q-tek86]

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