Posted on 12/10/2012 9:15:43 PM PST by Fedora
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Good post—that ACORN link ties a lot together.
Why weren’t Cloward and Piven arrested?
I don’t know, my guess is they got away with a lot because of their academic connections. I think Piven wanted to get arrested for publicity—she signed a petition refusing to pay taxes over the Vietnam War in 1968, and she participated in a post-settlement strike at Boston University that almost got her dismissed along with Howard Zinn, who was one of the CP’s key academic contacts during that period and was her colleague. Zinn had some pretty high-powered legal connections to the same lawyers defending the antiwar protestors, I would think Piven would have turned to those resources in event of an arrest.
From personal knowledge, the watts riots were started by a protection gang,.
The buildings were premarked for those that paid and not to be burned and vandalized and those that wouldn't pay that were to be burned and vandalized (files and records destroyed).
After they were started it got out of hand and the black gangs started hitting all the businesses.
One building I rebuilt wasn't supposed to be hit and the owner was screaming his head off, “I paid, I paid I wasn't supposed to be harmed.
He showed me on the wall of the alley where his building was marked to be not hit and 2 other ones on the same block that had been marked and destroyed,.
Thank you, very useful diagram! A piece I’d like to add to the NWRO/ACORN link outlined there is any link between NWRO and individuals or groups who have influenced the economic policies that complement ACORN’s political activism, either at the federal level or at the state/local level (e.g. NYC or Chicago).
Is history repeating itself?
Of course.
Just check Russia, ca. 1918.
Just because Communism failed in central Europe, it does not mean that it has ended...It has moved to the USA.
Back in the late 50s, when I was still a kid, I remember a program that came to Memphis.
It was called “None Dare Call it Treason”.
It was a rally held in the downtown auditorium to educate
Americans about Communism and how it was out to capture America.
While living in Slovakia, a few years ago, I remember the photos of Russian tanks rolling in.
Shouldn't, John Boehner should be included,however?
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Wiley and Gloria Steinem were a “thing” for a while when she was in her revolutionary mode. She should have taught George how to swim.
Actually, I think Wiley was a much bigger player in the welfare scam operation, or would have been, if he hadn’t of died. Something about his rise (he was charismatic and impressive looking/sounding) just doesn’t set right with me.
His ties to the Communist Party/fronts smells of a convergence movement of black extremism/nationalism with the CPUSA’s old “southern strategy” of creating a black nation within a nation, a strategy also adopted by the marxist/violent Republic of New Africa.
Who better to have “front” for the Party than Wiley. Stokely Carmichael was off on his marxist trip (to Cuba, Guinea, Ghana, etc., H.R. Brown was going to jail or already there, Bob Brown was still an unknown in Stokely’s All-African Revolutionary Party to be, and Huey Newton was in deep doo-doo. Bobby Seal, for the most part, became a non-factor after the Chicago 7 trial and other Black Panther Party leaders were dead, in jail, or on the run.
Only Wiley had a relatively “clean” personna.
Guess we will never know unless some classified or hidden away records tell us more.
However, the NWRO was taken over by several CPUSA members or sympathizers including Beulah Sanders (I believe she later was exposed as a CPUSA member), and one other woman in Milwaukee who was a CPer. They remained leading members of the CPUSA “Vietnam/peace fronts” such as New Mobe, SAC, PCPJ and then possibly in the later Mobilization for Survival anti-defense lobby. However, by then, they had lost most of their influence on the Left.
By the way, the NWRO tactics are those of Saul Alinsky (who I had heard speak and then met), as well as those of Jesse Jackson Jr (SCLC/Op. Breadbasket, Op. Push, Rainbow Coalition, along with his chief strategist, CPUSA covert leader in the South, Jack O’Dell), and Al Sharpton, who began his radical career at the age of 16 at an Angela Davis Defense Committee rally in New York (information on all of them at www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org” and “www.keywiki.org”, for starters).
Just thinking about this brings back the memory that “black extremism” in the “white radical movement” actually started on a national scale at the 1968 “National Conference for New Politics” conference where the CPUSA-aided and guided “black power” people took over the conference from white marxists and liberals. Marty Peretz (aka Marty the Putz), then editor of New Republic, later remarked that since the communists had taken over the conference, “let them pay for it.”
The poor boy still hasn’t learned to this day that the reds have sued him like a piece of toilet paper, only to disgard him when they were through.
Alice Widener wrote a great monograph-type publication about the NCNP for “USA” magazine. It exposed the “who’s who” and “who’s in control of the conference. Lots of Cloward/Piven and Michael Harrington “Democratic Socialists” were there, slowly working to take over the movement.
Perhaps this was the first known convergence of the black extremists and the white marxists. Then the Hayden/BPP convention in Oakland? about 1968/69. Then the NWRO and National Mobe/New Mobe, 1969-70.
Beginning to make some sense, timewise. Fedora. Do your thing.
Wiley and Gloria Steinem were a “thing” for a while when she was in her revolutionary mode. She should have taught George how to swim.
Actually, I think Wiley was a much bigger player in the welfare scam operation, or would have been, if he hadn’t of died. Something about his arise (he was charismatic and impressive looking/sounding) ust doesn’t set right with me.
His ties to the Communist Party/fronts smells of a convergence movement of black extremism/nationalism with the CPUSA’s old “southern strategy” of creating a black nation within a nation, a strategy also adopted by the marxist/violent Republic of New Africa.
Who better to have “front” for the Party than Wiley. Stokely Carmichael was off on his marxist trip (to Cuba, Guinea, Ghana, etc., H.R. Brown was going to jail or already there, Bob Brown was still an unknown in Stokely’s All-African Revolutionary Party to be, and Huey Newton was in deep doo-doo. Bobby Seal, for the most part, became a non-factor after the Chicago 7 trial and other Black Panther Party leaders were dead, in jail, or on the run.
Only Wiley had a relatively “clean” personna.
Guess we will never know unless some classified or hidden away records tell us more.
However, the NWRO was taken over by several CPUSA members or sympathizers including Beulah Sanders (I believe she later was exposed as a CPUSA member), and one other woman in Milwaukee who was a CPer. They remained leading members of the CPUSA “Vietnam/peace fronts” such as New Mobe, SAC, PCPJ and then possibly in the later Mobilization for Survival anti-defense lobby. However, by then, they had lost most of their influence on the Left.
By the way, the NWRO tactics are those of Saul Alinsky (who I had heard speak and then met), as well as those of Jesse Jackson Jr (SCLC/Op. Breadbasket, Op. Push, Rainbow Coalition, along with his chief strategist, CPUSA cover leader in the South, Jack O’Dell), and Al Sharpton, who began his radical career at the age of 16 at an Angela Davis Defense Committee rally in New York (information on all of them at www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org” and “www.keywiki.org”, for starters).
Just thinking about this brings back the memory that “black extremism” in the “white radical movement” actually started on a national scale at the 1968 “National Conference for New Politics” conference where the CPUSA-aided and guided “black power” people took over the conference from white marxists and liberals. Marty Peretz (aka Marty the Putz), then editor of New Republic, later remarked that since the communists had taken over the conference, “let them pay for it.”
The poor boy still hasn’t learned to this day that the reds have sued him like a piece of toilet paper, only to disgard him when they were through.
Alice Widener wrote a great monograph-type publication about the NCNP for “USA” magazine. It exposed the “who’s who” and “who’s in control of the conference. Lots of Cloward/Piven and Michael Harrington “Democratic Socialists” were there, slowing working to take over the movement.
Perhaps this was the first known convergence of the black extremists and the white marxists. Then the Hayden/BPP convention in Oakland? about 1968/69. Then the NWRO and National Mobe/New Mobe, 1969-70.
Beginning to make some sense, timewise. Fedora. Do your thing.
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Oh my! The Russian revolution has been on my mind all evening and I had not looked at FR until now.
The parallels of decay, unrest and confusion appear significant. I wrote my other post here before seeing yours.
My other laboriously written post here was lost somehow
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The country’s already bankrupt. Obama’s just waiting for his moment to spike the football.
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