Posted on 11/23/2012 6:28:55 AM PST by VitacoreVision
“The problem is these idiots bring their liberal politics with them and mess up the red states.”
The first things they say once they arrive to screw up your state is “that isn’t how we did it in California”. It should be sufficient to have them deported.
You might want to get your girls to consider that secession of the red states is a real possibility, and that Arizona will be 'blue locked' should that happen.
I sometimes miss my home state of California, but that state no longer exists. I don't even recognize what's there now. Texas is a lot more like the place I grew up in, which is why I'm here.
Maybe. Maybe not.
The "reddest" of all states this election cycle was Utah. They went for Romney 73% to 25% for Obama. The second reddest state was Wyoming (Romney 69% to 28%). And the 4th reddest was Idaho (64.5% to 33%).
These four states (including AZ) are contiguous, and could form an alliance or grouping.
And, of course, Wyoming borders the Great Plains states, which could form an alliance or grouping with Texas.
So Arizona doesn't necessarily have to be "blue-blocked."
You've got a point there. If worse comes to worse, I hope to see the red states in secession be contiguous.
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Even if they sign an affidavit that if they move to AZ to get the ‘incentives’, I doubt they'd be held to any kind of capitalistic integrity standard to get such free goodies. (or they'd not be incentivized by free gubmint ‘incentives’ to begin with)
Unless the ‘incentive’ is to just to be left alone and lower taxes/fewer regulations.
Bingo. I wouldn't mind so much if these folks would leave their failed liberal ideas and ways at the California border. But no, they bring their failed ideas, ways and philosophies with them and soon the cancer starts in the state they move in to.
Being a native born Texan I've seen over the decades how the state has moved from the right to the failing and cancerous left. My message is go somewhere else but please stay out of Texas if you can't shed your failed ideas and ways. Better yet, stay in California and fix the situation there instead of exporting them to the rest of us.
“Maybe a move north to OK is in order.”
I’d reckon further north.
The “last outposts” for conservatives in North America are probably going to become the northern Great Plains and Mountain states, along with Alberta and Saskatchewan, the Northwest Territories, and Alaska.
These are places where the folks of color don’t seem very interested in migrating to in great numbers, probably because of the weather.
It’s also the reason that if the country ever collapses into urban chaos, even the liberal states of Vermont and Maine (and New Hampshire as well) stand a very good chance at surviving. Perhaps the most liberal state in the union, Vermont is also the least “diverse”. It’s very easy to be liberal when you don’t have to deal with the problems it creates.
Milton Friedman wisely noted that it was impossible to run a welfare state with open borders. California is “Exhibit A.”
Re: Id reckon further north.
Just stay south of Montana!
Whatever you think of the CEOs, there will be a net gain by Arizona and a net loss of businesses of Cal by Cal’s own doing. Texas has already reaped the benefits.
All the conservatives left commiefornia in 2005. Both of them.
So long as they go all the way. We in AZ have had our fill of former CAians.
Thank you for your story. After reading the posts prior to yours I had a picture of Pelosi types moving here and it was quite depressing. I love Texas because I am not surrounded by liberals (I don’t go to Austin—we’ve got most of them segregated there)
I think we are likely to be picking up a lot of talented people and businesses and they can buy mansions for what they paid for their homes in CA. Bill Whittle of PJTV had a good story about how Midland/Odessa courted an aeronatical firm if I remember correctly and it was a win/win for the town, jobs, the business moving from CA and the state.
It is such a shame that the majority of voters in CA keep voting for more debt and less freedom. We can see where the USA is headed and the downfall to come if we don’t fight the leftist gobble-dee-gook and hold our representatives accountable for every decision made. If CA goes bankrupt in the next 4 years, they will come to Obama for money we just don’t have. The worst thing we can do is bail them out. They need to live with their poor voting habits and inability to have discernment.
My understanding is that it would be against the law to save them, but of course that miner technicality hasn’t slowed Obama from doing whatever he pleases. The White House must buy a huge number of pens for his Executive Orders
I think I could make it on a tank of gas and maybe 2 5 gal gas cans. LOL! I’m close enough thankfully. Of course along the gulf coast is pretty conservative and you can grow stuff most of the year. Just couldn’t deal with the humidity any more. But I am proud to say I know quite a few rednecks and coon-asses and would not have any trouble being with them. Poo-ya. Lasiez les bon temps roule!
It is popular here to quote the founding fathers and rely on their thought and guidance for going forward. To go back to the beginning is afterall conservative.
There were a different group of founding fathers, Americans generally, who founded a different nation. It would be prudent for many here to study them and their actions. They were Texans. They founded the Republic of Texas.
The America of the founding fathers has been transformed beyond repair. The constitution is no longer the guiding rules. It has been stretched beyond reason, almost beyond recognition.
The Red States should emulate the founders of Texas and throw off the bonds of the Euro wannabe’s and just quit. The new aggregation can be modeled on the thoughts of the founders of Texas. In world history, they stand very very tall as nation builders.
Texas is not runied by these libs coming here. There are too many of us vrs them. They will find that out and move on.
I have lived here 60 yrs now coming with parents from Pa when very little. I consider myself a Texas even tho I was not br here after all those years. Home to me is Texas not Pa.
I learned Texas history in school and how this great state was br and the men and women who fought to make it what it is today. Does anyone think that a few liberals come here are going to change it? I think not. They may form their little nooks and crannys here and there but the majority of Texans will far out number them every time.
I live outside a big town in the boonies and most of my trade is in the little towns around it. There are lots of little towns and areas in Texas that hold more people than the big towns hold when you count all of us here and there.
These people are farmers and cattle ranchers mostly with those that work the farms and ranches and run the stores and business in the little towns. Most carry a shotgun in the back window of their old beat up trucks and new big fancy ones. Its good old boy country and aims to stay that way.
We like Texas just the way it is and God help those that come here aiming to change it cause it ain’t going to happen. There are just too many of us versus them.
Texas don’t much care for Washington DC and Washington DC don’t care much about us and we like it that way.
So let them come and if they can’t assimilate with us then go somewhere else.
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