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IMPORTANT!!! IF YOU ARE ACTIVE DUTY AND THINKING OF SIGNING A SECESSION PETITION READ THIS THREAD
FR | 15 November 2012 | Repeat Offender

Posted on 11/15/2012 3:18:31 PM PST by Repeat Offender

Sorry for the vanity; especially the vanity in Breaking News; however, I thought this important enough that it should receive high visibility.

I have reason to believe that some Staff Judge Advocates and Special Security Officers are looking into the secession petitions at whitehouse.gov

From what I have heard if you are on Active Duty and sign a secession petition, you will be pursued as being in violation of your contract.

SSOs are screening the lists too; you can potentially say goodbye to your security clearance.

Don't do this to be a smart ass, funny, or cute. Understand the gravity of what you are putting your name to.

By all means if you wish to declare yourself at odds with the U.S. Government, and feel strongly enough feel free to do so. However, if you are unhappy with the election, deployment cycles, just think it is all a joke that won't be taken seriously - think again.

Don't ruin everything you worked for and fought for over something so trivial as an online petition...........there are biographers that are Reservist West Point grads for that.


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To: Owl558
in·sur·rec·tion [ ìnssə rékshən ] rebellion: a rebellion against the government or rulers of a country, often involving armed conflict A peaceful secession is not a rebellion or insurrection. The goal is an amicable parting of ways, preferably through mutual agreement and without the hostility associated with a shooting war. Perhaps both sides would be better off with a trial separation, and after a few years, we could have a positive relationship, rather than being the battered spouse forever and just taking it because someone tells us that we have no choice.
61 posted on 11/15/2012 4:52:42 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Repeat Offender

Declaring secession is childish and infantile..
You just plan it out organize and ... DO IT...

True its not “FAIR” to the federal givernment...
but then if you’re pulling out they do not deserve fairness.. will not respect it anyway..

Declaring secession is what RINO cowards would do..
JUST DO IT... or NOT DO IT.. - YODA


62 posted on 11/15/2012 5:24:20 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Repeat Offender

Can people not recognize the obvious trap in this?

Lightworker Barack Hussein Obama has never had an original thought in his life. Everything he and his lackeys have ever uttered is some retread, shopworn shibboleth of the left from either the 1930s, 1950s, 1960s or 1970s.

This one is from Mao in the 1950s.

“Let one hundred flowers blossom. Let one hundred school of thought contend.”

http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=1153&catid=2


63 posted on 11/15/2012 5:32:03 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: sean327

And as another Marine I’m telling your chickensh*t response is spitting on your Oath to protect and defend the Constitution. Not an Oath to the government, not the Union, but the Constitution.

Get your head right sh*tbird.


64 posted on 11/15/2012 5:56:40 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Roccus

Sure thing there Billy badass... You who won’t even sign an online petition from the safety of your ammo fort...


65 posted on 11/15/2012 5:58:05 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Repeat Offender
Vanities are never posted in breaking news.
66 posted on 11/15/2012 6:18:34 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: hosepipe

Even the Founders gave the King more than one “heads up”...


67 posted on 11/15/2012 6:24:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Psalm 144

Let it be a trap. Let it start here with those of us who are willing to stick our necks out for the rest of you.

Let us pray they are that stupid.

I don’t want my children to experience what their Great-Grandparents felt when the Commies took over the Ukraine.

Or what my Wife’s Great-Grandparents felt fleeing Germany...

And yeah... It damn well CAN happen here.


68 posted on 11/15/2012 6:27:03 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Show me the clause in the Constitution that allows for secession. I take my oath seriously. Secession is stupid, putting your name on these petions is stupid. Niether one will solve a g-damn thing. Fix it from the inside. You as a Marine should know that. As for your shi!bird comment, go phuck yourself a$$hat!!


69 posted on 11/15/2012 6:33:14 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Let it be a trap. Let it start here with those of us who are willing to stick our necks out for the rest of you.”

Because in any war, the best first move is to give away your position to the enemy.

Your moniker is apt.


70 posted on 11/15/2012 7:01:27 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: sean327

There is nothing in the Constitution that says its perpetual... This Country was founded as a secession from British Rule.

Listen pogue, if it were possible to fix it from the inside, it wouldn’t be this FUBAR to begin with. You don’t play by the rules against those who acknowledge no rules and expect to win.

You wanna be some whiny little cheese dick... Go for it. Don’t even pretend it’s anything less though.


71 posted on 11/15/2012 7:19:15 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Psalm 144

Then use it as a flanking maneuver. Get us nut jobs to lay down fire out front while the rest of you flank the enemy.

The Founders let the King know what they were up to hoping for peaceful resolution... I guess you think they were idiots too...


72 posted on 11/15/2012 7:24:41 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Repeat Offender

I would think that after we rid Washington DC of the communist usurpation those that did sign the petition will be American heroes.

Maybe get a school named after you, a park, an expressway even.

Flak is heaviest when over the target they say.


73 posted on 11/15/2012 7:46:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Dead Corpse

[ Even the Founders gave the King more than one “heads up”... ]

Being fair to a tyrant is stupid.. i.e. he/she is a tyrant..

VOTING DIED on Nov. 6th... few options left..

Many districts 2012 had more then 100% voter turnout..
2016 might be ALL districts will have more than 100% turnout..
It obviously is being encouraged..

** Even 90 to 100% turnout is damned near impossible..
Republicans should be shouting this from the rooftops..
THEY AREN’T... (craven cowards!!.. <<-— probably..)


74 posted on 11/15/2012 8:23:54 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Repeat Offender

Is that you Chicken Little?


75 posted on 11/15/2012 10:24:57 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (That Queer Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Repeat Offender

Nor do they have to allow you to serve in the military.
.

ALLOW???
Get back to DU/KOS...imbici.


76 posted on 11/15/2012 10:32:44 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (That Queer Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Owl558

So, you equate those who would sign such a secession petition online (not saying I support this secession idea at all) with “fomenting insurrection”. That, my FRiend, is one hell of a stretch. Care to elaborate?


77 posted on 11/16/2012 2:29:26 AM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: S.O.S121.500
ALLOW??? Get back to DU/KOS...imbici.

Kiss my ass.

Yes allow. We ALLOWED Hassan to serve in the military and we ALLOWED that little faggot Bradley Manning to serve in the military. And everyone bitched and moaned how these guys could do the things they did.

14 years and four God damned combat tours...... yes ALLOW. There is no unalienable RIGHT to join the military. Unless you're reading the super secret version of the Constitution. I get that your intellectual ignorance is such that 'go back to DU' sounds like a legit well thought out and reasoned response to something, but it it isn't.

The military inherently discriminates against the slow, the fat, the stupid, the old, the young, and until recently the queer. Unfortunately we're stuck with the queers.........but that said No they do not have to ALLOW you to stay in if they feel you may be a security threat.

I suppose it was Manning's Constitutional right to stay in the military and given a security clearance even after it was determined he leaked classified information?

No, of course not.....so why would it be any different when conservatives put their name to a petition saying they are at odds with the fedgov? Oh, that's right it is "different."

Fine, let's say there was a muslim service member that signed a petition declaring jihad against the U.S........should he be granted this mysterious Constitutional right you think exists to stay in the military......or should he be DISALLOWED to stay?

78 posted on 11/16/2012 2:49:00 AM PST by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: sean327

With all due respect intended, to a fellow veteran, (I am a Veteran of the US Navy), I have to tell you, that I have loved this country, but it is time we all face facts. The nation founded by our forefathers no longer exists. Just as the Soviet Union broke up, this union is doomed also. The nation is too polarized into Conservative and Liberal factions. Just as in 1861, things will come to a head, either peacefully or otherwise. Hopefully in a peaceful manner.


79 posted on 11/16/2012 5:02:01 AM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Deo Vindice (God will vindicate) February 22, 1861)
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To: hosepipe

Well, it’s either this or we just start shooting...

I’d prefer to say we exhausted all options prior to that.


80 posted on 11/16/2012 5:05:46 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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